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Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Shout-out to Microtronixdc, my colocation provider. For their $55/month/U colocation package, they provide unmetered gigabit for no additional cost. https://microtronixdc.com/

Their option to colocate a Raspberry Pi (or similar form factor) for $5/month is also interesting as a VPN exit node.

Based on their broad "Acceptable Use Policy" (https://microtronixdc.com/acceptable-use-policy), I'd wager a guess they'll find a reason to shut that down.

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In the US, DL works as an ID for almost anything other than voting in an election. You can fly to almost any US territory with that plastic card. And it is state-provided ID -- nobody questions that. And we are talking about 300M people here, which is about 4 times the population for Germany. If they hate US residents they should declare that clearly on their website, not wasting customers' (and their own) time.

Contrary to the belief of a lot of Americans, just because it works in the US doesn't mean it works elsewhere. In the rest of the world a driver's license is used for proving your right to drive and we have a thing called passports for proving your identity. Hetzner isn't an American company so why should they accept American drivers licenses?

> Hetzner isn't an American company so why should they accept American drivers licenses?

When in Rome ...

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Paying up front doesn't really mean much, because if the credit card info is stolen, the actual owner will report the transaction and it will be reversed.

Right but that sucks. So CC companies/banks are simply shifting risk from one side of the transaction to the other. Sure, as a consumer you don’t have to worry because you’ll get your money back. But if the merchant has to worry and reject customers who are “suspicious” to protect themselves then you’re back to square one, except more kafkaesque. That’s why I said cash is better. I’d rather have $10 permanently lost…

Hetzner is actually worse. Current EU directives allow liability shift in online payment when the customer is authenticated via 3D Secure, meaning the risk is extremely low and the onus of proving the fraud is on the card owner. Yet Hetzner will not accept your money if your name doesn’t look correct for the country you are accessing from.

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Exactly! I had a three node k3s cluster hosted on OVH. When I decided to switch to Contabo, it was as easy as adding the three Contabo nodes to the cluster, and then removing the three OVH nodes (plus updating some DNS rules). It was the easiest and simplest migration I'd ever done. All my services and data just moved automatically and mostly with zero downtime. The only service that experienced a little downtime was…

This is what I also want to do. How are you handling storage? That is the only issue I'm struggling with for a small 3-node deployment.

Longhorn volumes automatically replicate to multiple nodes (configurable) and automatically move to the nodes whose pods need it.

A postgres database running on a single node will experience some downtime during (re)deployments or when moving across nodes, but should be pretty quick depending on the size of the database. For true HA database, CockroachDB is supposed to be compatible with postgres, but I haven't had a chance to play with it.

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Their option to colocate a Raspberry Pi (or similar form factor) for $5/month is also interesting as a VPN exit node.

Based on their broad "Acceptable Use Policy" ( https://microtronixdc.com/acceptable-use-policy ), I'd wager a guess they'll find a reason to shut that down.

Yeah, I also later noticed they charge $46/month for 4 amps whereas the Raspberry Pi 5 requires a 5V, 5A power supply to take full advantage of its processing capabilities and features.

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Based on their broad "Acceptable Use Policy" ( https://microtronixdc.com/acceptable-use-policy ), I'd wager a guess they'll find a reason to shut that down.

Yeah, I also later noticed they charge $46/month for 4 amps whereas the Raspberry Pi 5 requires a 5V, 5A power supply to take full advantage of its processing capabilities and features.

I assume the 4 amps they charge for are at 120 V (480 W), while the Pi only needs 25 W plus some rectifier inefficiency.

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I have one big complaint and one little one. The big complaint is that they didn't even give one business day's notice, and the little complaint is that they raised prices at the same time they cut what they were offering by 20x, instead of doing one at a time.

They're giving two business days' notice for new product and three months for existing product?

Normally that would be ok, but considering the way many systems are setup to load balance and quickly spin up new servers and spin down un-needed servers on the fly, one business day would not give you enough time to revamp your system to work with a different provider.

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Dunno... my reaction was for this sentence specifically: > Until this change, customers who have used fewer resources have covered the costs [...] for other customers who have used much more resources. This does sound to me like "here, all 20TB is yours, but make sure you don't use more than 2TB, or else" - regardless from which angle I look at it.

or else they charge you $1 a tb, not cut you off

You're misreading. This wouldn't get the $1 fee. "We're giving you 20 TB (TWENTY) but don't you dare use more than 2 TB (TWO)"

It's a classic web host reseller technique of overselling and having it backfire.

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Their claim that "low usage customers subsidize high usage ones" is particularly disingenuous - if that were truly the issue, they'd offer better rates to low-bandwidth users rather than implementing blanket increases and severe bandwidth reductions across the board.

What's most troubling isn't even the price hike itself, but the 3-day notice period. For those of us running auto-scaling infrastructure, this is essentially immediate - new instances will pull from the new pricing tier right away, even if existing instances have until February. This kind of abrupt change makes it hard to trust them for production workloads.

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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As a Hetzner bandwidth enjoyer affected by this, this is why ( HN cough ) multi-cloud/dedi k3s is great, because if you get rug pulled you just migrate to another provider with better prices. That said, $1/TB for bandwidth overage seems pretty fair. I empathize with the complaining but if the new price is such a ripoff everyone should be recommending what cloud VM provider they're migrating to for a better deal.

Shout-out to Microtronixdc, my colocation provider. For their $55/month/U colocation package, they provide unmetered gigabit for no additional cost. https://microtronixdc.com/

Thanks for the shoutout!! :)
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