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Re: Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

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I've got frigate running at 3 sites and use wireguard to log into them and then monitor/review through the browser. Truly awesome technology. Self-hosting object detection and getting alerts is very effective and satisfying.

I'm looking at a similar setup. Mind sharing which cameras you went with?

I use Reolink fwiw. Cheap china cameras which stream in https & rtsp in h264 and h265.

Re: Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

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You are a champion, thank you for this. Will have a look at it when time permits. I've had an irrational and random dislike for anything Rust for some reason... probably because big business seems to like it, but will have to choke on that for this project :)

Regarding big business, I kind of have the opposite reaction that it has been more community maintained and been the one of the reasons I kind of admired it as a software project. They also tried to make this choice clear by making the tools, documents as accessible as possible. If you look at the history of Rust, the crates, cargo-team, etc, it is mostly community maintained. An example of such community-oriented la…

Your comment persuaded me to have a little look at Rust. And I kinda like what I see. Every time I say to myself "I'll never use that tech", I end up using/learning it.

Re: Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

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Nifty. Have you considered trying to make the server be able to run as something like a Cloudflare worker?

Not yet. The server is currently fairly simple and doesn't do much other than relaying ciphertexts (and MLS group welcome messages). It should be okay serving one user and several cameras, but is certainly not scalable. I have plans to improve its scalability, but that is not at the top of the todo list. I'll check out Cloudflare workers for sure. Thanks.

I wasn’t actually thinking of scalability. I was thinking that Cloudflare’s Tunnel is a handy, and often free, way to make a LAN service available from outside, and the combination of Tunnel and Workers could make for a nice, easy to deploy, solution.

Re: Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

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"Privastead uses the Google Firebase Cloud Messaging (FCM)" I'm am totally unfamiliar with this, but what level of concern that theGoogs pulls the plug on this service about the time you gain traction?

I'm not too concerned with that. As far as I know, almost all Android apps that need to send notifications to the device use FCM. If Google pulls the plug on it, many apps will stop working as intended.

The open source/degoogled alternative to that is UnifiedPush, did you take a look at this?

https://unifiedpush.org/

https://ntfy.sh/

Re: Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

#87

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I've got frigate running at 3 sites and use wireguard to log into them and then monitor/review through the browser. Truly awesome technology. Self-hosting object detection and getting alerts is very effective and satisfying.

I'm looking at a similar setup. Mind sharing which cameras you went with?

I have a bunch of Amcrest brand cams, indoor and outdoor, plus one Reolink combination floodlight/camera.

I like these PoE outdoor ones best: IP5M-T1179EW

Indoor PTZ ones: IP4M-1041W

Old wifi outdoor one: IP4M-1026E

I got some with the plastic dome around them but they do not work well at night, especially in weather.

I also have a ridiculous industrial PTZ camera that I put on my roof to watch birds, planes, and boats, and this thing is an absolute beast. I love it. https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/4k-action-ptz-camera-...

Re: Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

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Seeing all this focus on security I thought you might be interested in the fact that there are cameras out there with Secure Boot, Axis is one manufacturer I know of that focuses on this feature.

What's a realistic use-case for secure boot on a camera? It's such a corner case...

One use-case I see (for the Vendor) is avoiding the possibility of users to extend the useful life of their device by loading an aftermarket Firmware like OpenIPCam, OpenMiko, or OpenWrt when the Vendor decides it want's the user to buy a new device instead of continuing to use the existing device for more years.

Of course, Axis will say, that they do this to protect the world from terrorism, CP, and human trafficking.

Re: Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

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For me the human detection isn't an issue. I only have cameras indoors anyway, i have one outside but it's equipped with a highly zoomed lens so it can see the faces of the people in front of my door. It won't trigger on animals because they don't get up that high. But in your case I could recommend Frigate, it's got decent detection that can be accelerated with a Google coral TPU. It also integrates really well with…

For me I use Nest cameras with Home Assistant. I went through various brands of cameras and the Nest ones were the only ones that I could actually rely on. I didn't spend Megabucks but even mid-range local IP cams were very unreliable for RTSP (randomly going offline, super-sketchy partially translated apps for set up/config, frozen streams etc) I am not concerned about Google's use of my data. I'm not important enou…

> And even if someone did manage infiltrate Google, they'd very likely target someone high-value before me

The risk isn't just an evil insider infiltrating Google.

It's also that a lot of home security companies are in the business of having a friendly relationship with the authorities. So if the cops were investigating a fender-bender down the street and they ask Google for your videos? Better hope that living room camera doesn't show anything you wouldn't want the cops to see, because it's getting handed over.

Re: Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)

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Unfortunately my house is not wired for Ethernet and it's a rental so I can't install it. Wireless is a must and security is obviously important for wireless. But I think you are correct that I will be disappointed by what's out there.

I used a Reolink Argus with a battery and Wi-Fi connection. The one I used is probably EOL now, but a quick look at the site shows even solar chargeable options. So, it is possible.

I've got a Reolink Argus 2E which look like it's been replaced by the 3E, but it works great without any wired connection to the house. I've got it solar powered and strapped to a tree, unprotected by the elements. 2 years and still working.
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