Next they can sue the Nova Scotia government for abandoning its responsibility to provide maps of Nova Scotia, and now only prints a tourist map
that has a disclaimer on it stating that
any pronblems or inconsistancys, should be taken up with google.
As a non google user I am prevented from
obataining maps for business and pleasure.
And a footnote to history is that the term, "on the map" is purely historical, as there are many busy streets, not on any map.Cartography is no longer an actual proffesion ,including surveying, we are on the cusp of loosing , what are foundation
skills required to run a civilisation, with no debate, a fait complete.
Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
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Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
This lack of competition isn't an accident - the (very very corrupt) government has essentially been supporting and enforcing monopolistic practices and collusion for decades (all parties).
Yes, it seems to be a “made in Canada” economic theory: better to have a regulated domestic oligopoly than a market dominated by foreign competition. Of course the downside is regulatory capture leading to a ratchet effect depressing the economy while extracting more and more rents.
I wish everyone would pay attention to what the government is doing, instead of finding out from youtube or tiktok.
As all governments, the liberals are imperfect. However, The House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance (FINA) spent several years grilling banks, and some change has happened.
One example?
Prior to now you could escalate issues to first a bank ombudsman, then a provincal one. Such complaints where handled by an "independent" body, which of course the banks sneakily bought controlling interest in.
New legislation now prevents this, with the government instead vetting companies which will then act as an ombudsman.
A response of the perpetually cranky and disillusioned is "oh sure, but..." with a variety of concocted reasons as to why it's all hopeless and corrupt.
Thing is, change in a democratic government takes time, because in a democracy you cannot issue edicts on many things. Oh I know, upcoming sourpuss response, but but but! This guy did that and that guy did that, so edicts happen that's not the point and a whataboutism and exceeding rare that's why it's news.
What the point is, change does happen, and yes for the better (I can hear the disillusioned starting to type already), and we do infact fix things in Canada.
We do have a different market than the US. This is of course a good thing.
We also have the second largest country on the planet, yet with only the population of California. We also have a neighbour to the south who, while good folks, would literally control every aspect of our country via economic means without some balances in place.
This isn't malign, just how it works when an economy 20x your size, with megacorps that can buy companies which are behemoths in Canada, as an afterthought.
So again, things are and must be different unless we intend to allow another country to control how we do business with one another, communicate, interact and so on.
I'm sure some will want to respond here with loads of "who cares", and that's fine. Such folk can live in a world of simple solutions, disregarding consequences, but that's folly.
Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
The same amount of alternatives as there has been in previous years. If this was such a big issue for Canadians, why didn't the Canadian government do anything in the past 16 years since the DoubleClick acquisition? What changed this year?
Trudeau is going to finally lose his job. Pierre is coming.
Actions such as these start years ahead of time.
Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
What monopoly does Rogers have? They've been an option for various telecom offerings in places i've lived throughout canada, but I've never chosen them due to inferior product. Which monopoly do they have?
It's not exactly a monopoly, but telco, banking, grocery, etc. are very obvious oligopolies in Canada. Oligopolies that have been growing ever more dominant, and supported/protected every step of the way by the government. Claiming otherwise is just dishonest.
No, claiming otherwise is disagreeing with your very onesided opinion.
Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, it seems to be a “made in Canada” economic theory: better to have a regulated domestic oligopoly than a market dominated by foreign competition. Of course the downside is regulatory capture leading to a ratchet effect depressing the economy while extracting more and more rents.
I wish everyone would pay attention to what the government is doing, instead of finding out from youtube or tiktok. As all governments, the liberals are imperfect. However, The House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance (FINA) spent several years grilling banks, and some change has happened. One example? Prior to now you could escalate issues to first a bank ombudsman, then a provincal one. Such complaints where…
Thing is, change in a democratic government takes time, because in a democracy you cannot issue edicts on many things.
When we vote at the ballot box and you vote for a red tie and I vote for a blue tie, one of us gets the tie we want and the other is forced to wear the wrong tie.
When we vote with our wallets I can get a green tie and you can get a yellow tie and someone else can have a purple tie. Everyone gets the tie they want, as long as there’s enough competition in the tie business.
The original point of my complaint was not that I want a better regulator. I want competition so that I can get what I want, at a lower price, and I’m not beholden to the ballot box.
Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish everyone would pay attention to what the government is doing, instead of finding out from youtube or tiktok. As all governments, the liberals are imperfect. However, The House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance (FINA) spent several years grilling banks, and some change has happened. One example? Prior to now you could escalate issues to first a bank ombudsman, then a provincal one. Such complaints where…
Thing is, change in a democratic government takes time, because in a democracy you cannot issue edicts on many things. When we vote at the ballot box and you vote for a red tie and I vote for a blue tie, one of us gets the tie we want and the other is forced to wear the wrong tie. When we vote with our wallets I can get a green tie and you can get a yellow tie and someone else can have a purple tie. Everyone gets the…
And mine, was that you should want better regulation, as better competition is an end to our societal control.
If foreign corporations control all aspects of your economy, you become a puppet.
Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not exactly a monopoly, but telco, banking, grocery, etc. are very obvious oligopolies in Canada. Oligopolies that have been growing ever more dominant, and supported/protected every step of the way by the government. Claiming otherwise is just dishonest.
> Claiming otherwise is just dishonest. I didnt claim otherwise. I asked a poster what area they thought Rogers had a monopoly in. Telco sector has gotten quite a bit better in the last few years, but there are certainly still improvements needed.
How is competition better? We have Bell, Rogers, and Telus and then Quebecor which is regional and much smaller but at least within an order of magnitude of the other telcos in size. Shaw was bought out by Rogers, so it seems strictly worse than it used to be.
Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Claiming otherwise is just dishonest. I didnt claim otherwise. I asked a poster what area they thought Rogers had a monopoly in. Telco sector has gotten quite a bit better in the last few years, but there are certainly still improvements needed.
How is competition better? We have Bell, Rogers, and Telus and then Quebecor which is regional and much smaller but at least within an order of magnitude of the other telcos in size. Shaw was bought out by Rogers, so it seems strictly worse than it used to be.
> How is competition better?
Here's a CRTC article on how they're improving competition (regulation requiring the big companies to provide wholesale access to their networks) https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/phone/mobile/indus.htm
Here's a government press release from earlier in 2024 noting an 18% decrease over a one year period https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-develop...
And if you want an anecdote, for about a decade I used to have to pay $60 monthly minimum to get any useful amount of data. Over the last 2-3 years, that dropped to 55, 50, 45, and now I pay $34/month for 20gb of data with free roaming in the US. The government's statistics seem borne out by my experience.
Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#29I think Google will be broken up during the next couple of years.
Re: Canada Competition Bureau sues Google for anti-competitive conduct in online ads
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, it seems to be a “made in Canada” economic theory: better to have a regulated domestic oligopoly than a market dominated by foreign competition. Of course the downside is regulatory capture leading to a ratchet effect depressing the economy while extracting more and more rents.
I wish everyone would pay attention to what the government is doing, instead of finding out from youtube or tiktok. As all governments, the liberals are imperfect. However, The House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance (FINA) spent several years grilling banks, and some change has happened. One example? Prior to now you could escalate issues to first a bank ombudsman, then a provincal one. Such complaints where…
The argument you and the other poster are having has been useful to me. Thank you.
For context, my family and I just returned from a lap around Lake Huron. I invite you and yours to take a similar trip in the US, just to see the differences. Earlier in the year, my family and I went to Wyoming. Once we got off the freeways, we saw what I call The Real America.
What does it look like? It looks like a place that has been repeatedly punched in the face by big corporations for 50 years. The two trips showed quite the contrast: Middle Ontario, while rural, looked quite hopeful in comparison.
Here to your South, simple solutions won again. Mostly because the losing party did not make The Vast Middle feel like their problems were seen and heard.