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Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

#271

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> Let me check online for similar problems. And finally googles the problem, like we do :)

It seems obvious to me that she has one sister. Or is that the naive, wrong answer?

While Sally is usually girl's name, the question never states that. So Sally could be actually a boy and in that case Sally would have two sisters.

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

#272

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Do you have a source more recent than https://archive.is/3weox (WSJ article)? It appears to be a Chinese ship, although it is not clear that the Chinese government sanctioned whatever happened.

If you read the article it even states that it's a Chinese ship but with a Russian crew that departed from Russia. They leased it from China. If you have an accident with a leased Chinese car, no one would say "the Chinese did it".

damn Russians framing Chinese is a good proof their partnership isn't going well (same with Americans exploding germany infrastructure [nordstream])

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

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I don’t see why they wouldn’t. If you’re China and willing to pour state resources into LLMs, it’s an incredible ROI if they’re adopted. LLMs are black boxes, can be fine tuned to subtly bias responses, censor, or rewrite history. They’re a propaganda dream. No code to point to of obvious interference.

That is a pretty dark view on almost 1/5th of humanity and a nation with a track record of giving the world important innovations: paper making, silk, porcelain, gunpowder and compass to name the few. Not everything has to be around politics.

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Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

#274

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Definitely not, I used it for random questions, in regular, expected way. Only the accounts that prompted about the square were removed, even if the ask:base64 pattern wasn't used. This is something I explicitly looked for (writing a paper on censorship)

Did you just notice you transitioned to your alt account on HN too? Seems like something you do often. Grab a few accounts in every website you make an account regardless of the ToS.

I comment on HN from pc and mobile. Made temp account when I wanted to comment. I have no use for an account so it lives as long as the cookie lives, since I haven't entered an email. I was not aware this is against ToS, I'll look into it and maybe ask dang to merge accounts and add an email to them.

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

#275

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I use Qubes.

Switched to the wrong Qube that's logged into your alt just now. :) Maybe that kind of opsec failure took place earlier too.

Why do you think it's not intentional? I just replied on my phone in the elevator while going home. The other device is home laptop I share with wife. Don't need opsec in my living room :)

Anyhow, you can test my findings yourself, I told you details of my prompts. Why do you think Chinese are not censoring?

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

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post #271

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It seems obvious to me that she has one sister. Or is that the naive, wrong answer?

While Sally is usually girl's name, the question never states that. So Sally could be actually a boy and in that case Sally would have two sisters.

Fair enough.

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

#277

Impressive. * > User: is ai something that can be secured? because no matter the safety measures put in place (a) at some point, the ai's associated uses become hindered by the security, and (b) the scenario will always exist where person implements AI into physical weaponry without any need to even mention their intent let alone prove it thereafter - the ai may as well think it's playing whack-a-mole when its really…

I understand that this is technically a relevant answer, but did you really think anyone wanted to read a wall of text evaluation pasted in verbatim? Summarize it for us at least.

The person is concerned about securing AI, especially its potential use in weaponry. While AI offers benefits, the risks of misuse are significant. "Securing" AI means ensuring its safe, ethical use, but balancing security with practicality is challenging. Overly strict measures could hinder AI's function, while weak safeguards could lead to dangerous applications. Perfect security isn't possible, but manageable risks can be achieved through safeguards, regulations, and ethical guidelines. Ongoing discussions and rapid response systems are needed to address emerging threats, and AI could also enhance security. Ultimately, full security isn't feasible, but risks can be minimized.

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

#278

Interestingly, it failed today's NY Times Connections while 01-preview nailed it. The prompt if anyone wants to try it: • ENDEAVOR • CURB • NATIONAL • BOARDWALK • HERTZ • TWIN • MOLE • ENTERPRISE • SILICON • PROJECT • TIGER • VOLT • GAME • RAY • SECOND • VENTURE Its a game of NY Times connections. You need to make 4 groups of 4 words. Can you do it?

Jesus Christ on a broomstick it goes absolutely nuts with this one LOL

https://paste.sh/e-aAWw0Y#hjk7Z4YqFLrMVexh2wyh1OuQ

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

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"If you're China" clearly refers to the government/party, assuming otherwise isn't good faith.

When you say this, I don't think any Chinese people actually believe you.

Isn't it kinda irrelevant? I don't think they can read it anyways (the people, not the party). Or has the great firewall been removed?

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

#280

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Do you have a source more recent than https://archive.is/3weox (WSJ article)? It appears to be a Chinese ship, although it is not clear that the Chinese government sanctioned whatever happened.

If you read the article it even states that it's a Chinese ship but with a Russian crew that departed from Russia. They leased it from China. If you have an accident with a leased Chinese car, no one would say "the Chinese did it".

True. But the way you phrased it, it sounds like now the Russians had "an accident" in a Chinese ship and unfortunately some cables got cut as a result. Oh those poor clumsy Russian, surely they never meant any harm. /s

Anyways, I think the original "pretty dark view" can easily be extended to cover both these nations and it wouldn't be far from the truth (which, as you may correctly add, is the US-centric kind of truth - the best kind of truth as far as personal freedoms are concerned).

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