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Penny Arcade Sells Out

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Re: Penny Arcade Sells Out

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Somebody really needs to make a startup where, when you visit a page, you can either view ads, or opt out by paying a really teeny tiny amount of money. (And where you can set it to "always opt out and just pay for my damned content.") Problem? You can't really charge people tiny fractions of a cent effectively. Solution? Bit... wait for it... coin.

Does that then make somebody with an ad blocker a thief? Because I don't like the sound of that at all.

Re: Penny Arcade Sells Out

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Unfortunately for PA, their content is probably 90% games/pop culture topical. After a month it'd be completely stale and irrelevant (with exceptions of course). I think the better move would be to have pay users not have to see any ads. Simple web re-design to remove that for pay users, otherwise free users still have to look at the ads. There are a ton of sites that do this and are quite successful.

What's a site that only offers "no ads" as their paid-upgrade benefit? I haven't seen one offer just that, it usually comes with a grab-bag of other features that can't be replaced with a client-side script/extension. (DeviantArt's premium account is the upgrade I thought of. ( http://sta.sh/047k5sokcr2 ) The two major client-side features of no ads and more thumbnails are solved with NoScript and AutoPager respectiv…

The Facebook version of Words With Friends sells a 'no-ads' premium pack, but admittedly that's a bit of a different scenario as the ads are in-game modal dialogs that can only be dismissed after X seconds.

Re: Penny Arcade Sells Out

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post #60

Somebody really needs to make a startup where, when you visit a page, you can either view ads, or opt out by paying a really teeny tiny amount of money. (And where you can set it to "always opt out and just pay for my damned content.") Problem? You can't really charge people tiny fractions of a cent effectively. Solution? Bit... wait for it... coin.

Does that then make somebody with an ad blocker a thief? Because I don't like the sound of that at all.

Why not? It'd be even less thievery than stealing, say, a toothpick from a restaurant, but what's the effective difference?

Re: Penny Arcade Sells Out

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post #60

Somebody really needs to make a startup where, when you visit a page, you can either view ads, or opt out by paying a really teeny tiny amount of money. (And where you can set it to "always opt out and just pay for my damned content.") Problem? You can't really charge people tiny fractions of a cent effectively. Solution? Bit... wait for it... coin.

Does that then make somebody with an ad blocker a thief? Because I don't like the sound of that at all.

These days you could simply cover the right side of your monitor with a small piece of cardboard and never see ads again. OR - simply don't look. A part of me thinks non-adword based advertising is going to implode because we are creating a generation of internet users that have been trained through high-use to simply ignore ads.

Re: Penny Arcade Sells Out

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It works for public television.

It works because you have only one public television organization in your town.

Conversely, only one public television organization was worth continual year after year funding.

Re: Penny Arcade Sells Out

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post #49

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That's precisely the distinction that Kickstarter claims to be making, though: they'll fund new projects, but not ongoing business expenses.

They said they won't fund life expenses. That's a bit different. Though it is a somewhat fuzzy distinction to be making.

So KS wouldn't applicable to Dwarf Fortress?

Re: Penny Arcade Sells Out

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This is interesting territory for Kickstarter. They've been clear throughout that they'd like to fund specific, time-limited projects, e.g. someone producing a book, and don't allow general fundraising to operate a business, e.g. raising funds to pay a year of salaries and rent for an ongoing business. There's a way you can squint and call this a specific project, a time-limited "remove ads from PA for a year" experi…

> I doubt they'll pull this particular one

As I understand the process, applications on Kickstarter go through a screening period that can take weeks. You're right that this "project" is on the borderline of the site's intended use, but I think if they didn't judge it appropriate we'd never have even known it existed.

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