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How Blackjack Works (2007)

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Re: How Blackjack Works (2007)

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Is card counting still possible, or have casinos implemented enough countermeasures to defeat its advantage?

Sort of. Look up StevenBridges on YouTube, he documents his career as a card counter. It's certainly possible and you can get some profit, but the casino will sooner or later ban you from blackjack, so you also need a steady supply of them.

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Is card counting still possible, or have casinos implemented enough countermeasures to defeat its advantage?

Card counting is largely defeated by adding more and more decks to the shuffle. Once you get to a 6-deck shoe, it becomes very difficult to use card counting to successfully "beat the odds".

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Is card counting still possible, or have casinos implemented enough countermeasures to defeat its advantage?

Card counting is largely defeated by adding more and more decks to the shuffle. Once you get to a 6-deck shoe, it becomes very difficult to use card counting to successfully "beat the odds".

I believe it's not strictly more decks, but also how often they shuffle. If they add 7 decks but don't shuffle until near the bottom, it's actually advantageous as the count can get very skewed (e.g. 50 cards left and 30 facecards remaining). However, with 7 decks and reshuffling halfway through the count doesn't reach as much relevance to the next card.

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Is card counting still possible, or have casinos implemented enough countermeasures to defeat its advantage?

Card counting is largely defeated by adding more and more decks to the shuffle. Once you get to a 6-deck shoe, it becomes very difficult to use card counting to successfully "beat the odds".

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Re: How Blackjack Works (2007)

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Is card counting still possible, or have casinos implemented enough countermeasures to defeat its advantage?

Casinos are not dumb, they have countermeasures as well as people watching the game counting the cards themselves to see if players are OBVIOUSLY counting from their playing pattern.

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Is card counting still possible, or have casinos implemented enough countermeasures to defeat its advantage?

Possible enough so to encourage new people to think they can try, not possible enough to become a millionaire.

Possible enough that to be elite your life turns into a sort of arbitrage trying to scam casinos in exchange for a mediocre salary.

Re: How Blackjack Works (2007)

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Is card counting still possible, or have casinos implemented enough countermeasures to defeat its advantage?

Sort of. Look up StevenBridges on YouTube, he documents his career as a card counter. It's certainly possible and you can get some profit, but the casino will sooner or later ban you from blackjack, so you also need a steady supply of them.

I just watched one of his videos this morning. Yeah you tend to hit like into the thousands and they tend to see you as a problem, especially on single deck tables. It's not hard for them to spot someone using well known strategies. You can still turn out a modest profit and I think one thing to keep in mind is in places like vegas you might want to find the casinos that aren't owned by the two big companies that own most of them because they share information on punters...

His whole book is like 'why you probably shouldnt learn how to count cards' and its because its a massive pain in the ass and you can probably make more money doing something like poker instead. It's fun from what I hear though every person I know who has the mental math skills to do this has gone to vegas only to get limited at around 1000$ or so. Sometimes they even catch you within like 3-5 hands haha

Fun fact, Ed Thorpe developed blackjack basic strategy and card counting through computer simulation and is pretty much the guy responsible for casinos having to change all their rules at one point with the game. One thing I thought was funny was how steven bridges was trying the fake beard thing, it seemed like the most obvious tell that he was doing some funny business to me, it looked like shit haha

https://graham-kendall.com/blog/claude-shannon-edward-thorp-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_O._Thorp

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