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Re: GenChess

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Post by dspillett »

mgoetzke wrote: post #186
supermatt wrote: post #172

Not available in the EU - so I guess the question is what are they collecting off you under the guise of playing chess that would require them to block EU users...

Yes, always suspicious. I mean the GDPR is not that complicated really, unless you really want to do personalized tracking

Not sure it is a GDPR issue – it isn't filtering my out on either mobile or the office connection. I'm in the UK, and despite brexit we are still (technically at least) covered by GDPR (there are some differences in UK-GDPR, and more will come, but IIRC they are not significantly substantive yet). Unless, perhaps, they are banking on our ICO being toothless so won't enforce anything.

Re: GenChess

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Post by drewmate »

supermatt wrote: post #172

Not available in the EU - so I guess the question is what are they collecting off you under the guise of playing chess that would require them to block EU users...

I suspect it’s a byproduct of Google’s internal launch process which may require more work or longer processes for launching something in different jurisdictions. So it’s probably not an active decision that they couldn’t legally do this in the EU, but a result of being extra careful around what they can “launch” in a jurisdiction with potentially high penalties.

(I am a Googler, but not on this team, or familiar with their launch policies)

Re: GenChess

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Post by piltdownman »

tommysve wrote: post #167
HenryBemis wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in certain countries or regions."

Exactly. I'm not under the age of 18 and is located in the EU region, thus cannot use this service for no other obvious reason. I guess Google feels it is more convenient to just block EU users from services like this than it is to try to comply with EU regulations.

Remember the faceswap apps that were doing the rounds a while back?

The most egregious violators of privacy and ingestors of PII are often the most trivial of 'cool tech demos'. This being Google doesn't make it any different - particularly after their egregious violations regarding their Incognito Mode.

They're reigning themselves in before they're smacked down again for naked profiteering, not 'punishing' the EU for imposing a 'success-tax' as the reductive consensus from Americans seems to be.

Re: GenChess

#194

Post by vunderba »

computerphage wrote: post #183
vunderba wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe... but being able to play "anti-computer chess" (lots of subtle moves that have very small perceived advantages) hasn't been a particularly viable strategy since Kasparov's loss to Deep Blue in the 90s.

Jonathan Schrantz has videos beating stockfish (not full strength, more like the JS version) a couple years ago using specifically anti-computer preparation.

Thanks for the recommendation - I'd be interested to see that. Stockfish is no patzer.

Re: GenChess

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Post by dbish »

supermatt wrote: post #172

Not available in the EU - so I guess the question is what are they collecting off you under the guise of playing chess that would require them to block EU users...

It’s probably not nefarious and just generally not worth the headache of an EU release and going through the checks/requirements for an experiment or early beta.

The many rules of the EU stifle speed and change the math for releasing something especially in a big company that has a variety of requirements built up over time to reduce litigation risk or being on the wrong side of one of the overreaching government officials there.

Re: GenChess

#196

Post by dbish »

mgoetzke wrote: post #186
supermatt wrote: post #172

Not available in the EU - so I guess the question is what are they collecting off you under the guise of playing chess that would require them to block EU users...

Yes, always suspicious. I mean the GDPR is not that complicated really, unless you really want to do personalized tracking

For an experimental project every extra requirement is annoying/slows down release. It’s completely reasonable that they don’t one to add more work before releasing to a large customer base that doesn’t need the extra work.

Re: GenChess

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Post by sbuttgereit »

mgoetzke wrote: post #186
supermatt wrote: post #172

Not available in the EU - so I guess the question is what are they collecting off you under the guise of playing chess that would require them to block EU users...

Yes, always suspicious. I mean the GDPR is not that complicated really, unless you really want to do personalized tracking

I think one of the least wise things a person (or company) can do when faced with any law is to assume that it's "not complicated really."

Much, much wiser to assume "there be dragons" and only engage once qualified legal counsel has helped you understand what compliance means to you.

And along these lines... The second least wise thing to do in this scenario is listen to randos in a forum like this tell you, "but all you have to do to comply is..."

Re: GenChess

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Post by overgard »

I generated a Rick and Morty set that was completely hilarious and played against cardboard. It was pretty confusing though because cardboard was white and the R&M set was dark. That isometric view is unplayable though!! It's hard to even click on the right piece and analyzing the board becomes confusing.
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