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Re: GenChess

#172
Not available in the EU - so I guess the question is what are they collecting off you under the guise of playing chess that would require them to block EU users...

Re: GenChess

#173

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Thanks because "This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in certain countries or regions." The EU is left behind

I don't know how Google is internally organised, but maybe Google Labs does not have a dedicated legal team. And out of fear for possible legal implications, they just block it in EU. It's quite understandable, because the relevant legislations (AI Act etc) are all very new, not been tested in courts and due to the lack of stare decisis, you can't rely on a uniform application of the law in all jurisdictions, so they…

NotebookLM is from Google Labs and was/is available from EU. It's problem with this specific chess project.

Re: GenChess

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post #165

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When Meta prevented the EU from using meta.ai or even downloading its vision models, I sunk my head in the AI legistation. Here, I am honestly not sure which part they rely on, to say that what they made might be unlawful. The closest thing I found for Meta was that “emotion recognition systems” are classified as high-risk (paragraph 54), and high-risk systems must have their training data disclosed (Art 11(1))[0]. I…

It's simple. Big tech doesn't like regulation. By pretending the regulation won't let them release "all these cool things" they can turn public opinion against regulation.

See: Cookie Banners.

Nothing in the law requires a banner. It could even be handled in the browser by letting people choose what third-party cookies to accept (or none, hence the problem) and having that be negotiated during page load.

It's nice the law is being interpreted to require to be as easy to reject all local storage of other's data as it is to accept all local storage of other's data.

Re: GenChess

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post #144

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Thanks because "This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in certain countries or regions." The EU is left behind

As per usual. If we weren't such a big market we'd already be left behind by everyone else due to all the bullshit happening in the EU legal-wise.

This bullshit prevents the worst misuse of data of EU citizens

Re: GenChess

#177
post #8

Better link (at least for the many who can't get the actual service) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yGEhp3WBMcg

Thanks because "This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in certain countries or regions." The EU is left behind

If this is the future i don't think you're missing much

Re: GenChess

#178

I'm fascinated by what prompts lead to 'Please try a different prompt.' New Zealand or Australia lead to the aforementioned error, but The Antipodes generates a set. I thought individual countries had been banned for possibly generating offensive content but it works for Great Britain.

Metallica works, Slipknot doesn't, Iron Maiden does, Nirvana doesn't. Aperture Science works, so does Black Mesa (the proposed opponent, hehe), Cyberdyne Systems doesn't, Vault-Tec does, Weyland-Yutani also works. Studio Ghibli doesn't work, Toei Animation does, so does Production I.G. and KyoAni. Akagi works, JoJo doesn't but JoJo Bizarre Adventure does (so does Joseph Joestar, and it knows Dio Brando is the opponen…

"Warhammer 40K" generates perfectly good lawsuit material: a space orc on a bike (knight) and a space marine with a bolter (pawn) in a classic WH40k pose. Also some Eldar-like pieces I didn't recognise.

Re: GenChess

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post #150

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Limiting access for EU users is an easy way to sidestep a hell of a lot of potential legal liability. It’s a fast-moving and complex regulatory environment that is focused on punishing/controlling big US businesses. Option A is to burn a pile of cash and time to keep abreast of it. Option B is simply… block the EU.

> Limiting access for EU users is an easy way to sidestep a hell of a lot of potential legal liability. It’s a fast-moving and complex regulatory environment that is focused on punishing/controlling big US businesses. Have you considered a less paranoid explanation, like... focused on protecting Europeans from the abuses of big corporations?

I wanted you and your sibling commenter to know that even though we're probably coming from opposite ends of the political spectrum, I meant no malice or schadenfreude by my comment.

Despite being a huge capitalist, I do think there's a sweet spot of very minimal regulation that works out best for everyone.

However, the blocking-the-EU outcome is obvious after a couple of minutes of thinking about it in game theory terms. Another one to look out for is companies (both physical and digital) that never even considered doing business in the EU, but who would have if it were easy.

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