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Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

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Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

#21

Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, t…

"which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product" I had a different experience. Watching a Cybertruck which had flat-bottomed itself in sand as my Subaru winched it out made me think more about getting an F-150 lightning.

Not a Subaru?

Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

#22
post #20

That's incredibly petty and I like it. Half of America has only contempt for anyone who tries to play nice, get played, and cries that it's not fair. If you want to win, you have to play to win. If you want people to stop listening to Elon Musk, you have to make him a loser. It's time Democrats took the lesson.

Can you think what would happen if your enemies applied this logic to you and your friends?

Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

#23
post #20

That's incredibly petty and I like it. Half of America has only contempt for anyone who tries to play nice, get played, and cries that it's not fair. If you want to win, you have to play to win. If you want people to stop listening to Elon Musk, you have to make him a loser. It's time Democrats took the lesson.

Can you think what would happen if your enemies applied this logic to you and your friends?

You mean, like the current status of America?

Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

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post #20

That's incredibly petty and I like it. Half of America has only contempt for anyone who tries to play nice, get played, and cries that it's not fair. If you want to win, you have to play to win. If you want people to stop listening to Elon Musk, you have to make him a loser. It's time Democrats took the lesson.

Can you think what would happen if your enemies applied this logic to you and your friends?

Yes, and it’s happened twice in eight years.

Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

#26
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product" I had a different experience. Watching a Cybertruck which had flat-bottomed itself in sand as my Subaru winched it out made me think more about getting an F-150 lightning.

Not a Subaru?

Do Subaru offer electric trucks?

Both Cybertruck and F-150 are trucks, not cars or SUVs.

Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

#27

Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, t…

> we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from

Based on what?

> We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, to protect individuals and organizations.

Why would we want to do that? It's also totally impractical because everything is politicized.

Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

#28
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the first time that California government officials have held Elon Musk's political beliefs against him and his companies... https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/10/california-reject-m... It's absolutely disgusting whether you agree with his politics or not. As Americans we're better than this.

But...you're not, this is entirely normal politics now. DeSantis has been waging open war on Disney for years, Cruz has gone after everyone from Blackrock to Target for political reasons. The incoming administration has made no secret it intends to use any and every lever to hurt any opposition. At some point you need to stop pretending to be surprised by entirely quotidien events and accept this is in fact precisely…

There will also be exceptions for any general principle. Remember, Americans still allow TikTok despite mainland China banning almost every major US social network. Citing a few events and calling them "quotidien" doesn't make it so.

E.g, Twitter/X is still flourishing in the US while regulators in the EU frequently threaten it.

Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But...you're not, this is entirely normal politics now. DeSantis has been waging open war on Disney for years, Cruz has gone after everyone from Blackrock to Target for political reasons. The incoming administration has made no secret it intends to use any and every lever to hurt any opposition. At some point you need to stop pretending to be surprised by entirely quotidien events and accept this is in fact precisely…

Yes, those examples you gave are also disgusting, but do not make politically motivated actions against Elon Musk right.

Is it right? That's endlessly debatable. But is it unusual, unexpected or 'not who we are'? No, that is clear and if anything this is at the mild end of recent weaponisation of political office against businesses.

Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal

#30
post #20

That's incredibly petty and I like it. Half of America has only contempt for anyone who tries to play nice, get played, and cries that it's not fair. If you want to win, you have to play to win. If you want people to stop listening to Elon Musk, you have to make him a loser. It's time Democrats took the lesson.

Can you think what would happen if your enemies applied this logic to you and your friends?

Where have you been the last 8 years? This is exactly what "your enemies" (in your context) have been doing.
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