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Ask HN: Has anyone tried adapting a court reporter keyboard for writing code?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone tried adapting a court reporter keyboard for writing code?

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I have one that I bought, it is mechanical and has a 3 or 4 inch wide paper tape, but, it ALSO has a 9 pin serial port and can be driven by Plover (mentioned elsewhere on this thread) I believe. Haven't yet wired it up yet as it is in storage.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone tried adapting a court reporter keyboard for writing code?

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The special phrase you want is "chord" A stenographer's keyboard is a special kind of chord keyboard for spoken English. There are other kinds of chord keyboards, but look into those. For example: - https://www.charachorder.com/ - https://github.com/davidphilipbarr/Sweep Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30515912

Somewhat hilariously, having perused your first two links, and followed the link from Sweep to Ferris, I still find myself having no idea how any of this works. (But I know a lot about how the firmware and PCB layout is designed!).

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone tried adapting a court reporter keyboard for writing code?

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post #35

In my experience, typing speed is never the issue. I've worked with truly 10x and better programmers in my life and the road block for even them is thinking not typing.

Ironically writing less code is probably better!

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone tried adapting a court reporter keyboard for writing code?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downvoted for a good pun! The HNHEF (HN Humor Eradication Force), like the oft-mentioned-on-HN RESF (Rust Evangelism Strike Force), strikes again! Foo(l)ray!

Humor on HN is generally accepted if it's clever or makes you think in some way. But "haha some words have multiple meanings!" doesn't quite meet that bar .

>Humor on HN is generally accepted if it's clever or makes you think in some way.

generally, eh?

faa--aa--aa--aa--ukk.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the ridiculousness of that statement. overall, to laugh, I think, makes more sense. because, according to you, majority wins?

see https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_rule

and the downsides mentioned there.

that means minorities should not have any voice? their voices should be suppressed by downvoting or criticizing them for not toeing the "generally" (sheesh!) accepted line?

then how is this different from any other form of discrimination, such as racism, sexism or ageism?

can we call it old-boys-club-ism?

you miserably fail to convince, right at your first sentence above, bro. but that's par for the course for the many HNers of the hive mind / echo chamber kind, who think that everyone else needs to think like them, or else they are considered the wrong type of people, and try to brain wash them into thinking differently from what they already do, as you just tried to do above, or by knee-jerk reflex action, downvote them. I have seen that pattern often on this site. and it's not just me, others have commented about it too.

because, you know, generally, it is considered that people should be tolerant of others' opinions, unless they are dangerous or something like that. and how is making a few innocuous puns, even if they are not "clever", dangerous?

I bet you don't agree with that statement.

but, and this is my key point, by the way, did you see what I did there with my use of the word generally?

I used it in the same discriminatory way as you did.

still editing, to make any wording changes and check for typos.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone tried adapting a court reporter keyboard for writing code?

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post #3

IANACR, but I would think it's not practical, in that the stenotype keyboard (the official term for the keyboard used by court reporters) is used to record the phonetic _sounds_ of what is being spoken, rather than the actual words. These phonetic codes do not resemble anything approximating the actual words they represent. Also, computer source code (whatever the language) typically contains variable names which oft…

I seem to remember reading once that what is typed by a stenographer is also only meaningful to them. And therefore must be transcribed into English later by the same stenographer. Can anyone here confirm that?

What stenographers capture is phonetic. These days a computer program translates that back into written language in real time. It uses knowledge of the language to pull this off. So it's a bit like autocorrect on you phone.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone tried adapting a court reporter keyboard for writing code?

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A while back in PyCon UK I met some of the people behind http://www.openstenoproject.org/plover/ It’s awesome just how fast and accurate they can be, and most devs were of my mindset “wow can I learn to type like that - it woukd solve this problem and that” Till we found out just how much work is needed to get good. It’s a true skill, and sadly undervalued but something that just has too little pro for the cons - in…

I was never trained as a touch-typist. I still have to look at the keyboard as I type, and have never become a master CLI maven.

But it hasn’t prevented me from writing thousands of pages of prose, and millions of lines of code.

I think it has probably also saved me from RSI. I have a friend that is a master engineer, that has to change their career, because their arms are all screwed up (multiple surgeries didn’t fix it).

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone tried adapting a court reporter keyboard for writing code?

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post #35

In my experience, typing speed is never the issue. I've worked with truly 10x and better programmers in my life and the road block for even them is thinking not typing.

Ironically writing less code is probably better!

This is true.

I always say that the best code I write, is the code I don’t write.

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