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Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by burnished »

Nevermark wrote: post #54
keiferski wrote: post #37

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I have probably written this comment about a dozen times on HN already, but: I agree completely, because people don't listen to podcasts purely for information, they listen for information plus community, personality, or just a basic human connection. If you're a content creator today, the best thing you can do to "AI-proof" your work is to inject your personality into it as much as possible. Preferably your physical…

> The future of human content is being as human as possible. AI isn't going to replace that in our lifetimes, if ever. I have been working on machine learning algorithms for a long time. Since the time when telling someone I worked on AI was a conversation killer, even with technical people. AI's are going to understand people better than people understand people. That could be in five years, maybe - many things are…

Yes, this seems possible. I only wonder if it is too fragile to be self perpetuating. But we're here after all, and this place used to be just a wet rock.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by jabroni_salad »

Bjorkbat wrote: post #33
vunderba wrote: post #5

Slightly tangential, but this is the reason I'm baffled why people think that AI-driven podcasts would ever be worth listening to. If you can find an LLM+TTS generated podcast with even a FRACTION of the infectious energy as something like Good Job Brain, Radio Lab, or Ask Me Another, then I'll eat my hat. I don't even own one. I'll drive to the nearest hat store, purchase the tallest stovetop hat that I can afford a…

As someone who's struggled to really get into podcasts, I'm convinced that most people who enjoy podcasts don't really actively listen to them, they just like that extra bit of noise in the background while they do something else, with the added bonus that they might just listen at just the right time to pick up some interesting factoid. Don't get me wrong, I like podcasts, Fall of Civilizations being a personal favo…

I switched to improvised pods for this reason. Podcasts are for doing the dishes and mowing the lawn and playing factorio. I don't turn on anything with 'meat' unless I have a long car trip ahead of me. I just am not able to sit still and only listen without feeling like I could be doing something else, and when I'm doing something else I'm gonna start tuning out eventually.

Hey Riddle Riddle, Hello from the magic tavern, Artists on artists on artists on artists are my picks for now.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by hansonkd »

hnthrowaway6543 wrote: post #200
hansonkd wrote: post #199

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This isn't an economically driven platform that is directly revenue driven like ads, movies, news articles, podcasts, etc for one. go to reddit or even linkedin which is revenue driven and it is a sea of bots parroting the same tired points with comments that are 1 or 2 words different from other comments directly above them. My entire point is that human production is not going to zero, but is moving to a minority.…

Yeah but why are you consuming human-generated garbage comments on HN instead of just getting infinite comments from ChatGPT? Pontificate on this, then return.

Thats irrelevant to what I am saying. You want all or nothing. I am saying AI will dominate in the majority and human generated content will still survive in the minority.

It doesn't matter what luddites like myself think. It matters what is economically viable to the masses.

Perhaps with such excellent examples of human thought such as your comment eventually ChatGPT comments won't seem so bad.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by staunton »

mvdtnz wrote: post #139
tokioyoyo wrote: post #27

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Isn't it just a matter of time until AI gets trained to generate attention-grabbing videos? Also, "the first three seconds" isn't exactly the case anymore. There's a push for algorithm to favour videos that are longer than 1+ minutes. Which, to my understanding, is TikTok's way of fighting for YouTube's userbase.

> Isn't it just a matter of time until AI gets trained to... blah blah yes "it's a matter or time" for every one of the myriad shortcomings of the technology to be resolved. If you're a true believer everything is "a matter of time". I'll believe it when I see it.

I'm also pretty aure you'll see it eventually... Consider the possibility that this is both a bubble waiting to pop, as well as the stuff that will shape the future. Kind of like the Internet around the year 2000.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by hnthrowaway6543 »

hansonkd wrote: post #203
hnthrowaway6543 wrote: post #200

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Yeah but why are you consuming human-generated garbage comments on HN instead of just getting infinite comments from ChatGPT? Pontificate on this, then return.

Thats irrelevant to what I am saying. You want all or nothing. I am saying AI will dominate in the majority and human generated content will still survive in the minority. It doesn't matter what luddites like myself think. It matters what is economically viable to the masses. Perhaps with such excellent examples of human thought such as your comment eventually ChatGPT comments won't seem so bad.

You are choosing to consume human-generated content even though right now you could go to ChatGPT and get infinite AI-generated content, for free!

Why is that?

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by stevage »

vunderba wrote: post #5

Slightly tangential, but this is the reason I'm baffled why people think that AI-driven podcasts would ever be worth listening to. If you can find an LLM+TTS generated podcast with even a FRACTION of the infectious energy as something like Good Job Brain, Radio Lab, or Ask Me Another, then I'll eat my hat. I don't even own one. I'll drive to the nearest hat store, purchase the tallest stovetop hat that I can afford a…

The average podcast fails that test, but does fine.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by hnthrowaway6543 »

segasaturn wrote: post #161
unraveller wrote: post #81

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People are judging AI by what abusers of AI put out there for lols and what they themselves can wring out of it. They haven't yet seen what a bunch of AAA professionals with nothing to lose can build and align.

Billions of dollars and all of Silicon Valley's focus has been spent over the last 2 years trying to get AI to work, the "AAA professionals" are already working on AI and I still have yet to see an AI generated product that's interesting or compelling.

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Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by mattnewton »

foobarian wrote: post #167
bdndndndbve wrote: post #88

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We've been through this song and dance before. AI researchers make legitimately impressive breakthroughs in specific tasks, people extrapolate linear growth, the air comes out of the balloon after a couple years when it turns out we couldn't just throw progressively larger models at the problem to emulate human cognition. I'm surprised that tech workers who should be the most skeptical about this kind of stuff end up…

One problem is that people assume the end goal is to create a human-cognition-capable AI. I think it' pretty obvious by this point that that's not going to happen. But there is no need for that at all to still cause a huge disruption; let's say most current workers in roles that benefit from AI (copilot, writing, throwaway clipart, repetitive tasks, summarizing, looking up stuff, etc.) lead not even to job loss but f…

> human-cognition-capable AI. I think it' pretty obvious by this point that that's not going to happen

It's obvious to some people but that's not what many investors and company operators are saying. I think the prevailing message in the valley is "AGI is going to happen" for different values of when, not if. So I think you'd be forgiven for taking them at face value.

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Post by artistic_regard »

hnthrowaway6543 wrote: post #208
segasaturn wrote: post #161

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Billions of dollars and all of Silicon Valley's focus has been spent over the last 2 years trying to get AI to work, the "AAA professionals" are already working on AI and I still have yet to see an AI generated product that's interesting or compelling.

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