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Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by namaria »

joe_the_user wrote: post #55
tomcam wrote: post #3

Incredibly, no videos linked in an article about a video newscast. I think this is an example. The AI doesn't even pronounce "AI" correctly. Interestingly, it looks slightly offscreen just the way real newsreaders do when they're on prompter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa7Q2S7VWUk They do a lot right. There's interaction between the bots. They look kind of professional but not Los Angeles/New York quality, which…

I could only find this video. James' arms go up and down in an alarming manner. Rose has more natural movements but the voice you hear when her mouth moves is worse than the worst foreign film voice-over. Somehow the person and the voice mismatched in "tone" in a way that's hard to describe. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1040710730435452

Uncanny, I'd say

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by dragonwriter »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #96
keiferski wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

videos of other people talking about how they do their make up and pick their outfits. Doesn't seem that much different from a fashion magazine interview about what X celebrity likes to wear. Those have been around for quite a long time.

At least in the past people were celebrities for a reason other than the number of followers they had on social. It'd be nice if we could return to a time when people were part of the public discourse because they were good at something (or their parents were rich, sadly).

> At least in the past people were celebrities for a reason other than the number of followers they had on social.

“Other than”? Obviously, as social media didn't exist. “Better than” or “more relevant to the things for which there celebrity status was used to direct attention”? Not particularly.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by itronitron »

tomcam wrote: post #3

Incredibly, no videos linked in an article about a video newscast. I think this is an example. The AI doesn't even pronounce "AI" correctly. Interestingly, it looks slightly offscreen just the way real newsreaders do when they're on prompter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa7Q2S7VWUk They do a lot right. There's interaction between the bots. They look kind of professional but not Los Angeles/New York quality, which…

>> The AI doesn't even pronounce "AI" correctly.

You can call me Al.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by itronitron »

bdndndndbve wrote: post #88
datahack wrote: post #82

While I enjoyed the article, it’s just another in a line of the same article with different flavors and authors that all have the same fundamental error. The prevailing counterargument against AI consistently hinges on the present state of AI rather than the trajectory of its development: but what matters is not the capabilities of AI as they exist today, but the astonishing velocity at which those capabilities are e…

We've been through this song and dance before. AI researchers make legitimately impressive breakthroughs in specific tasks, people extrapolate linear growth, the air comes out of the balloon after a couple years when it turns out we couldn't just throw progressively larger models at the problem to emulate human cognition. I'm surprised that tech workers who should be the most skeptical about this kind of stuff end up…

>> I'm surprised that tech workers ... end up being the most breathlessly hyperbolic.

We're not.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by arolihas »

Nevermark wrote: post #54
keiferski wrote: post #37

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I have probably written this comment about a dozen times on HN already, but: I agree completely, because people don't listen to podcasts purely for information, they listen for information plus community, personality, or just a basic human connection. If you're a content creator today, the best thing you can do to "AI-proof" your work is to inject your personality into it as much as possible. Preferably your physical…

> The future of human content is being as human as possible. AI isn't going to replace that in our lifetimes, if ever. I have been working on machine learning algorithms for a long time. Since the time when telling someone I worked on AI was a conversation killer, even with technical people. AI's are going to understand people better than people understand people. That could be in five years, maybe - many things are…

What machine learning algorithm have you worked on that leads you to believe they are capable of having a rich internal cognitive representation anywhere close to any sentient conscious animal?

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by namaria »

nsavage wrote: post #97
lawn wrote: post #89

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It's getting old but there's an xkcd for your kind of reasoning: https://xkcd.com/605/

Isn't this essentially the same argument as "there are only 10 covid cases in this area, nothing to worry about"? It's really missing the point, the point is whether or not exponential growth is happening or not. It doesn't with husbands, it does with covid, time will tell about AI.

Transformers have been around for 7 years, ChatGPT for 2. This isn't the first few samples of what could be exponential growth. These are several quarters of overpromise and underdelivery. The chatbot is cool and it outperforms what awful product search has become. But is it enough to support a 3.5 trillion dollar sized parts supplier?

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by Gare »

skybrian wrote: post #69
sourcepluck wrote: post #40

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Go back to the 1990s (even probably the 2000s?) and ask literally anyone what they think of the idea of people spending huge quantities of their time on this mortal plane watching videos of other people talking about how they do their make up and pick their outfits. Are those videos "worth watching"? Are videos of people playing video games "worth watching"? Are videos of people opening products and saying out loud t…

Bad TV is a lot older than that. It probably seems weird nowadays to watch “I Dream of Jeanie” and “Gilligan’s Island” reruns because that’s what was on TV. Or how about game shows and soap operas? Daytime TV was the worst. But people watched.

And pulp fiction is even older!

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by WgaqPdNr7PGLGVW »

petercooper wrote: post #68
vunderba wrote: post #5

Slightly tangential, but this is the reason I'm baffled why people think that AI-driven podcasts would ever be worth listening to. If you can find an LLM+TTS generated podcast with even a FRACTION of the infectious energy as something like Good Job Brain, Radio Lab, or Ask Me Another, then I'll eat my hat. I don't even own one. I'll drive to the nearest hat store, purchase the tallest stovetop hat that I can afford a…

Someone in 2020: "If you can find a computer program that can generate an image with even a FRACTION of the aesthetic appeal of human created art...." Give it time. Progress is fast.

> Give it time. Progress is fast.

Why pick 2020 as your starting point? That is simply around the time the current set of techniques came about.

We had generative art back in the late 90's - my screensaver has been generative art for over 20 years now.

Obviously generative art has come a long way but people have been working on various approaches to it for at least 30 years.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by INTPenis »

This is an extreme example, also this person would never lose their job that easy if there were laws protecting workers.

But what I have seen here in Sweden is AI voiceover used in news reports where people have hidden identities. So clearly this has taken a job from someone who used to do this voiceover. But it's working, we have to adapt to these small changes that AI is bringing.

Re: The AI reporter that took my old job just got fired

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Post by namaria »

Xenoamorphous wrote: post #45
alternatex wrote: post #13

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I'd be terrified if anyone considers this reporting watchable. I felt depressed after 30 seconds. It's like an episode of Black Mirror.

> This is the first inning I think this is the key part.

How is a very off putting start a good thing?
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