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Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by k4rli »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #40
gibolt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very few others have recalls that can be done OTA. Even if it is just software, expect an hour to days at a service center to do the update, if the techs can figure it out. For Tesla, the software recalls are nearly automatic (one click install, just like other update), such that few owners even know that their car ever had a recall.

This is kind of true. Say what you want about Tesla, but they have the best software experience out of the other car manufacturers. I love my BMW i4, but had to take into the shop just to fix a botched softwares update. Well, at least the cabin is silent.

I'd say my 2006MY car has the best software experience. The less, the better.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by fastball »

protocolture wrote: post #24
YZF wrote: post #7

I saw my first Cybertruck the other day. It looked less weird in person than I expected it. It's a very different and new design. How many of the 91% we're comparing to are completely new designs. What's the correct benchmark? Let's rewrite the headline. "A radical new EV design from Tesla, the Cybertruck, is already ahead of 9% of all 2024 vehicles in quality as it just ramps up production". I'll likely never own th…

In a vacuum I would agree with you, but it fails in lots of predictable ways, and doesnt really offer any utility as a new design. And where they tried to engineer around these issues they often over engineered instead of removing the problem. I honestly like the way it looks, but I am happy I never preordered it or anything. The reviews are shocking. Even the positive reviews tend to hyperfocus on situations that ca…

> but it fails in lots of predictable ways, and doesnt really offer any utility as a new design

In what ways has it failed predictably? There are a number of things that could contribute to various failures/recalls that relate to utility provided by the (novel) design. For example the steer-by-wire system or the mid-voltage (48 V DC) electrical system.

The main example of "this is just dumb design for no reason" is the recall due to the pedal cover sliding up and jamming, but that was only 1 out of 6.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by tene80i »

renewiltord wrote: post #27

Dude, the thing with these things is that the breathlessness has already exhausted belief. Supposedly Tesla Y was a terrible thing, supposedly everyone was going to die in the heat under the Tesla tent, supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff. Nothing happened. Everyone I know who owns a Tesla loves it. So I’m going to file this under “internet hates guy; tries to make it sound like he makes bad th…

> supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff.

It’s true that the smaller team has succeeded with uptime on the core service. It’s also true, however, that the platform is in serious decline, and that’s partly due to the product becoming more and more shitty over time. It turns out skeleton crews can’t make things that are nice to use. Have you tried the X mac app lately? It’s just horrible. Broken modals, empty loading screens, janky layout with desperate upsell message slapped everywhere.

Keeping the platform online with a smaller team was a win, sure. But don’t pretend there’s been no impact.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by Gigachad »

gibolt wrote: post #33
YZF wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't all trucks? Wouldn't the sensor suite and auto-braking make it maybe somewhat safer? Is this something that gets tested for by car manufacturers?

Also, the hood + "grill" is significantly lower. A pedestrian would bounce (although uncomfortably) instead of hit by a wall and run over like most other trucks / SUVs.

As long as you aren’t sliced in half by the sharp corners.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by BeefWellington »

gibolt wrote: post #16
Arcuru wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the first paragraph of TFA: > The latest recall—the wedge wagon’s sixth this year—requires shop time, not an over-the-air (OTA) update.

That's the point... It is the only one and affects less than 3000 vehicles. A prior physical recall affected a few hundred. For most automakers, a recall involves hundreds of thousands to millions and is almost never an OTA software update.

It is not the only one. While it's true this affects roughly 1/5 to 1/3 of all Cybertrucks sold so far this year (depending on which random sales numbers online you believe), some of the others have affected every Cybertruck sold, such as the wiper motor burning out or the pieces of bed trim falling off while driving.

I cannot find any evidence that previous physical recalls this year only affected a few hundred units. Two are 2000+ units and the others seem to be however many had sold by the date of the recall (10k+ in both instances).

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by riffraff »

renewiltord wrote: post #27

Dude, the thing with these things is that the breathlessness has already exhausted belief. Supposedly Tesla Y was a terrible thing, supposedly everyone was going to die in the heat under the Tesla tent, supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff. Nothing happened. Everyone I know who owns a Tesla loves it. So I’m going to file this under “internet hates guy; tries to make it sound like he makes bad th…

> supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff.

I agree people tend to overreact and overblow expected consequences, but I mean, twitter's valuation is down 80%[0] and they haven't released anything new in two years, after exhausting the backlog of already developed things.

It's not going great.

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/09/30/elon-musk...

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by bufferoverflow »

renewiltord wrote: post #27

Dude, the thing with these things is that the breathlessness has already exhausted belief. Supposedly Tesla Y was a terrible thing, supposedly everyone was going to die in the heat under the Tesla tent, supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff. Nothing happened. Everyone I know who owns a Tesla loves it. So I’m going to file this under “internet hates guy; tries to make it sound like he makes bad th…

All the hate comes from deranged people who have never driven a Tesla, let alone had one. They take any negative story and spin it forever.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by justinclift »

stackghost wrote: post #66
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

The article notes that the most recent recall was a physical one, not a software update, and implies that that was unusual. I wonder if you exclude "recalls" resolved by software updates, for all cars, where it would rank then?

>I wonder if you exclude "recalls" resolved by software updates, for all cars, where it would rank then? Why have you put "recalls" in quotes? It gives the impression you think this makes it somehow lesser. The cybertruck, for example, was subject to a recall because the rearview camera wouldn't come up, but the mirrors are insufficient to back the vehicle up safely without the camera. That's a safety issue, irrespec…

> Why have you put "recalls" in quotes?

Maybe because an over-the-air update is hard to seriously consider a "recall"?

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