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Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by stephen_g »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #55
protocolture wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a vacuum I would agree with you, but it fails in lots of predictable ways, and doesnt really offer any utility as a new design. And where they tried to engineer around these issues they often over engineered instead of removing the problem. I honestly like the way it looks, but I am happy I never preordered it or anything. The reviews are shocking. Even the positive reviews tend to hyperfocus on situations that ca…

> doesnt really offer any utility as a new design This is true of most automobile design. There are legitimate criticisms of Musk and Tesla. "I don't like how someone else's car looks" is not one of them.

The word 'utility' in the comment you're replying to specifically means how the design functions, not how it looks. For example, it's a truck that's design makes it worse for carrying cargo in the tray than a standard truck.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by refulgentis »

qwerpy wrote: post #62
lttlrck wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh did they fix the rusting issue from the beginning of the year?

I think that story turned out to be media sensationalism. I’ve owned one for over half a year, in the distinctly not dry PNW. No rust at all.

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Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by WithinReason »

Arcuru wrote: post #10
pbreit wrote: post #8

Are these "recalls" just simple over the air software updates? Just because car people are not used to this doesn't make it necessarily bad. Obviously no bugs are better than some bugs. But people here tend to know how software development works.

From the first paragraph of TFA: > The latest recall—the wedge wagon’s sixth this year—requires shop time, not an over-the-air (OTA) update.

This implies some of the recalls were just OTAs

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

stephen_g wrote: post #71
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> doesnt really offer any utility as a new design This is true of most automobile design. There are legitimate criticisms of Musk and Tesla. "I don't like how someone else's car looks" is not one of them.

The word 'utility' in the comment you're replying to specifically means how the design functions, not how it looks. For example, it's a truck that's design makes it worse for carrying cargo in the tray than a standard truck.

> word 'utility' specifically means how it functions, not how it looks

Yes. Not offering utility in design is common in cars. Most people don’t buy a truck to haul. Most people don’t buy an off-roader to go off road. (Most people don’t buy a sports car to race.)

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by wtcactus »

sitkack wrote: post #3

The article has about equal time about what Cybertruck owners dont care about, safety, reliability, etc. > Similar to other critics (earlier this year, a CNN reviewer called the pickup a “disturbing level of individual arrogance in hard, unforgiving steel”)—Drury believes Cybertruck buyers are people “who think ‘I don’t care if I kill people when I drive this thing down the street,’” he says. “There aren’t many of th…

The article is a smear piece. As it was expected coming from Wired.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by joering2 »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #63

Does anyone know what the deal is with Cybertrucks coming in different colors all of a sudden? I thought they were only sold as bare steel? But now I see matte black cybertrucks regularly.

Had same question so parked next to a black one. It was wrap. Since then I seen green, pink and blue cybertrucks; all wraps with companies advertising. All of sudden majority I see are small business owners wrap-advertising. Rarely see the steel one. This is for Miami FL.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by jpk »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #63

Does anyone know what the deal is with Cybertrucks coming in different colors all of a sudden? I thought they were only sold as bare steel? But now I see matte black cybertrucks regularly.

You're seeing vinyl wraps, most likely.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by darkwater »

davedx wrote: post #58
gibolt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very few others have recalls that can be done OTA. Even if it is just software, expect an hour to days at a service center to do the update, if the techs can figure it out. For Tesla, the software recalls are nearly automatic (one click install, just like other update), such that few owners even know that their car ever had a recall.

My Model 3 has had: - charge port needing replaced shortly after I bought: mobile service - front and rear suspension forks replaced: 2 trips to service center (common according to them) - rear light needed replacing (mobile service) 4 years old. Still not as bad as our last car (diesel VW Sharan), but Teslas have plenty of defects that can’t be fixed OTA.

Sure, but "recall" in the automotive market has a very precise meaning, and refers to safety issues (at production line level, so impacting many VINs)that needs to be fixed. In Tesla's case, unlike most of other vendors, generally these recalls can be fixed with an OTA update.

The CT OTOH had many "classical" physical recalls due to hardware issues.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by rhyzomatic »

muppetman wrote: post #56
renewiltord wrote: post #27

Dude, the thing with these things is that the breathlessness has already exhausted belief. Supposedly Tesla Y was a terrible thing, supposedly everyone was going to die in the heat under the Tesla tent, supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff. Nothing happened. Everyone I know who owns a Tesla loves it. So I’m going to file this under “internet hates guy; tries to make it sound like he makes bad th…

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Not an SRE but I admit to saying that I expected Twitter to have some serious outages in the coming months after firing all those people. Honestly, how did the remaining engineers at Twitter pull it off? I can't really imagine losing more than half of my coworkers and not having the wheels fall off pretty quickly.
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