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Re: Starlink Direct to Cell

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This is supposed to launch in New Zealand during 2024, in partnership with a local carrier. Was being heavily hyped a year or so back, but I haven’t heard much recently?

The Commerce Commission charged One NZ for making false claims around Starlink: https://www.teslarati.com/starlink-criminal-charges-new-zeal...

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The board at Tesla is basically Elon’s buddies. There is no oversight or independence there, they do what he wants. If law was applied equality to billionaires as it does to regular people, he would be in jail for fraud.

> The board at Tesla is basically Elon’s buddies. There is no oversight or independence there, they do what he wants. This is true at most companies with a competent CEO. My uncle had an inimical board that tried to remove him, but he somehow replaced them all one by one before they could. Needless to say he replaced them with people who didn't want to remove him ("buddies"; but what kind of a leader surrounds himsel…

Some companies have board governance rules that mandate a majority of the board seats be of "outside and independent" individuals, but of course this can easily be gamed and, of course, these rules themselves can be put to a vote during shareholder meetings.

Still, it's always worth considering these structures before one invests--especially in med-to-large-cap public companies.

Alternatively, in private small-cap and venture-boards, the seats are nearly always filled by founders and lead investors and I would argue that's a "good thing".

Re: Starlink Direct to Cell

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I wish I could pay Starlink directly and have global satellite based LTE instead of having to go through a specific carrier and be limited by other carriers’ reciprocity to specific countries and bands One space based cell plan for the whole world

Adding to this: I wish I can just buy a 4G modem for my cubesat and get 24/7 access through Starlink without waiting for my cubesats to be in view of my groundstation...

Re: Starlink Direct to Cell

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Can anyone explain how upload would work? How can an unmodified cellphone upload data to a satellite?

There are a few factors that make this possible:

1. As others have pointed out, the link budget (how much energy loss a particular radio link can handle before it is broken) for D2C satellites assumes a nearly direct line of sight from your handset to the satellite. This is much easier to achieve with satellites in space than it is with traditional cell towers that might have numerous walls/buildings in the way.

2. The D2C satellites use massive phased array antennas that are able to point a very narrow beam very accurately to the ground. This provides a substantial amount of antenna gain that further helps the link budget. The gain from the antennas allows the satellites to pick up even relatively weak signals from a handset.

There are other tricks as well, but these account for the largest differences. Of course, doppler gets in the way, but it is a solvable problem.

Re: Starlink Direct to Cell

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This is supposed to launch in New Zealand during 2024, in partnership with a local carrier. Was being heavily hyped a year or so back, but I haven’t heard much recently?

There are a few stories in the last week. Seems like it's in testing but has been waiting for lower satellites with appropriate capabilities: https://www.interest.co.nz/technology/130898/telco-one-nz-be...

Probably not happening until next year:

> But in September the telco (and Optus across the Tasman and other Direct to Cell exclusive partners) removed “launching 2024″ references from its website. -- https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/commerce-commission-take...

Re: Starlink Direct to Cell

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I wish I could pay Starlink directly and have global satellite based LTE instead of having to go through a specific carrier and be limited by other carriers’ reciprocity to specific countries and bands One space based cell plan for the whole world

Adding to this: I wish I can just buy a 4G modem for my cubesat and get 24/7 access through Starlink without waiting for my cubesats to be in view of my groundstation...

i wouldnt need more than 1MBit to ssh into my servers comfortably, and pull directions to the nearest "full power downlink" if i want to listen to music while i work or something

Re: Starlink Direct to Cell

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It's similar (ish), but I think unfortunately the comparison distracts from your core point and observation. Musk Inc. is, in essence, a privet equity company. He raises a fund, and invests it along with his own cash into a business he knows well, and with which he believes he can disrupt the status quo. He's very hands on, understanding all the important core details, setting culture, and pushing hard . But he also…

I’m curious why this is being downvoted (seems to hit the nail on the head)

Well, it's certainly how Musk likes to market himself.

Re: Starlink Direct to Cell

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I wish I could pay Starlink directly and have global satellite based LTE instead of having to go through a specific carrier and be limited by other carriers’ reciprocity to specific countries and bands One space based cell plan for the whole world

I can’t imagine satellites being able to compete with cell towers in bandwidth or capacity.

There are millions of cell towers.

During a major event, cellular companies set up portable cell towers (COWs) and even these are not enough.

And a cell tower that is right next to you still pales in comparison to a single cable in bandwidth.

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Starlink's certainly planning on that, more or less.

Unless they can remove buildings from this world, that isn't going to be a reality.

ah, people live in cities with hi-rise buildings. silly me.

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I switched to T-Mobile at the last upgrade interval because of this. My family looks forward to no longer relying on Garmin InReach devices when out hiking.

The inReach is basically indestructible. A cell phone, not so much.

this is how i feel. especially in the cold. for a lot of the stuff i do, i'm not gonna trust my life on a glass screen with a battery that doesn't work well in the cold.
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