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Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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How do I allow "stępień" while detecting Zalgo-isms?

We have a whitelist of allowed characters, which is a pretty big list.

I think we based it on Lodash’ deburr source code. If deburr’s output is a-z and some common symbols, it passes (and we store the original value)

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/lodash-_-deburr-method/

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

#112

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The name of the city has the L with stroke (pronounced as a W), so it’s Łódź.

And the transliteration in this case is so far from the original that it's barely recognisable for me (three out of four characters are different and as a native I perceive Ł as a fully separate character, not as a funny variation of L)

The fact that it's pronounced as Вуч and not Лодж still triggers me.

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Yes, it is essential when you want to avoid doing business with customers who have invalid names.

What if your customer is the artist formerly known as Prince or even X Æ A-12 Musk?

Prince: "Get over yourself and just use your given name." (Shockingly, his given name actually is Prince; I first thought it was only a stage name)

Musk: Tell Elon to get over his narcissism enough to not use his children as his own vanity projects. This isn't just an Elon problem, many people treat children as vanity projects to fuel their own narcissism. That's not what children are for. Give him a proper name. (and then proceed to enter "X Æ A-12" into your database, it's just text...)

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

#114
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Is name validation even possible?

Don't validate names, use transliteration to make them safe for postal services (or whatever). In SQL this is COLLATE, in the command line you can use uconv: >echo "'Lódź'" | uconv -f "UTF-8" -t "UTF-8" -x "Latin-ASCII" >'Lodz'

Yeah, that'll work great..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Celje

echo "Čelje" | uconv -f "UTF-8" -t "UTF-8" -x "Latin-ASCII"

> "Celje"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celje

(i mean... we do have postal numbers just for problems like this, but both Štefan and Stefan are not-so-uncommon male names over here, so are Jozef and Jožef, etc.)

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The name of the city has the L with stroke (pronounced as a W), so it’s Łódź.

And the transliteration in this case is so far from the original that it's barely recognisable for me (three out of four characters are different and as a native I perceive Ł as a fully separate character, not as a funny variation of L)

L with stroke is the english name for it according to wikipedia by the way, not my choice of naming. The transliterated version is not great, considering how far removed from the proper pronunciation it is, but I’m sort of used to it. The almost correct one above was jarring enough that I wanted to point it out.

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

#116
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I know multiple developers who would just say "well it's their fault, they have to change name then".

I worked with an office of Germans who insisted that ASCII was sufficient. The German language uses letters that cannot be represented in ASCII. In fairness, they mostly wanted stuff to be in English, and when necessary, to transliterate German characters into their English counterparts (in German there is a standardised way of doing this), so I can understand why they didn't see it was necessary. I just never unders…

I’ve run into a similar-ish situation working with East-Asian students and East-Asian faculty. Me, an American who wants to be clear and make policies easy for everybody to understand: worried about name ordering a bit (Do we want to ask for their last name or their family name in this field, what’s the stupid learning management system want, etc etc). Chinese co-worker: we can just ask them for their last names, everybody knows what Americans mean when they ask for that, and all the students are used to dealing with this.

Hah, fair enough. I think it was an abstract question to me, so I was looking for the technically correct answer. Practical question for him, so he gave the practical answer.

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

#117
Software has been gaslighting generations of people around the world.

Side note: not a bad way to skirt surveillance though.

A name like “stępień” will without a doubt have many ambiguous spellings across different intelligence gathering systems (RUMINT, OSINT, …). Americans will probably spell it as “Stefen” or “Steven” or “Stephen”, especially once communicated over phone.

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#118
post #80
post #49

Under GDPR you have the legal right for your name to be stored and processed with the correct spelling in the EU. https://gdprhub.eu/index.php?title=Court_of_Appeal_of_Brusse...

This seems to only apply to banks.

It’s a general right to have incorrect personal data relating to you rectified by the data processor.

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

#119

I have an 'æ' in my middle name (formally secondary first name because history reasons). Usually I just don't use it, but it's always funny when a payment form instructs me to write my full name exactly as written on my credit card, and then goes on to tell me my name is invalid.

"Write your name the way it's spelled in your government issued id" is my favorite. I have three ids issued by two governments and no two match letter by letter.

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This seems to only apply to banks.

I wouldn't be surprised if that created kafkaesque problems with other institutions that require name to match the bank account exactly , and break/reject non-ASCII at the same time.

I know an Åsa who became variously Åsa, Aasa and Asa after moving to a non-Scandinavian country. That took a while to untangle, and caused some of the problems you describe.
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