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Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by jaxelr »

erklik wrote: post #7
nyolfen wrote: post #3

this story never made sense to me. he disassembled a digital clock then put the pieces in a pencil case? he didn't fabricate it or design any of the electronic components; what was he supposed to be demonstrating, that you can put a digital clock in new case? also his dad was a sudanese opposition politician??

It's a 14 year old kid. He wasn't demonstrating anything. He took apart a clock, stuck in back in a different case, wanted to show his teacher that in a, I am guessing : "Hey look, I took all this apart, and managed not to destroy it".. Honestly, this entire event shows me two things: 1. The jumps people make to crazy assumptions when faced with someone they don't like because of ideological reasons. 2. The low level…

This, a hundred times this, I used to do this quite often since I was 5-6 years old with all the hardware that I was tired of using (games, toys, etc...)

Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by KingMob »

OkayBuddy44 wrote: post #26
KingMob wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ehh. I'm sure any number of equally awkward HN commenters at 14 might have done the same, and if they weren't muslim, gotten the benefit of the doubt instead of being hauled off to the police dept.

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It's really telling how you're focusing on the "white house" part, and glossing over the "arrested and accused of terrorism first" part.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by ThousndBeerMike »

elashri wrote: post #40
ajdude wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I can tell, this 14-year-old kid showed the clock to other teachers (including his engineering teacher whom he said was the reason he brought it to school to show) before the English teacher, and they told him to keep the device in his backpack and to stop taking it out. It wasn't until during English class, when he took it out, plugged it in, and set the alarm, that's something happened. I have to wonder i…

These details are not in the Wikipedia page. Care to cite how can we get accurate description of the order of what really happened? And even though, I don't think suspension and police overreaction and taking a kid to be questioned without his parents present is justified. This is my problem and this is what makes this no just an ordinary incident that just happens everywhere. There was a racial profiling involved.

I wonder why they aren’t in the wikipedia page lol

Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by jadamson »

elashri wrote: post #40
ajdude wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I can tell, this 14-year-old kid showed the clock to other teachers (including his engineering teacher whom he said was the reason he brought it to school to show) before the English teacher, and they told him to keep the device in his backpack and to stop taking it out. It wasn't until during English class, when he took it out, plugged it in, and set the alarm, that's something happened. I have to wonder i…

These details are not in the Wikipedia page. Care to cite how can we get accurate description of the order of what really happened? And even though, I don't think suspension and police overreaction and taking a kid to be questioned without his parents present is justified. This is my problem and this is what makes this no just an ordinary incident that just happens everywhere. There was a racial profiling involved.

They are on the WP page, though.

> Mohamed said he brought the clock to school because he "wanted to impress all of his teachers".[12] His engineering teacher, upon seeing the clock said, "That's really nice", but advised him to keep the device in his backpack for the rest of the school day.[14] Mohamed, however, later plugged it in during his English class and set a time on the clock.[12] When the clock alarm started beeping, the English teacher requested to see it, and said, "Well, it looks like a bomb. Don't show it to anyone else."[11]

Here's an older revision so you can't claim it wasn't there earlier:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_Mohamed_clo...

Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by jadamson »

KingMob wrote: post #22
elashri wrote: post #20

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> I think people on HN can be better than to spread conspiracy theories and avoid racism. HN users tend to think they are more logical and thus, somehow more immune to racism, while failing to understand that's simply not how racist attitudes develop.

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by jadamson »

KingMob wrote: post #25
lodovic wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be the devil's advocate, wouldn't this be the same if a white kid from the Bronx dresses up as a ghost to school, only to be arrested for coming to school in a Klan uniform? To me it seems to be a huge misunderstanding on all sides.

Can you dig up any instances of that happening? Because if not, you've accidentally proved the racism in this incident, because we can already turn up news reports of misunderstood nerdy islamic kids, but find no arrests of caucasian supernatural enthusiasts. A nonexistent, hypothetical strawman doesn't bolster your argument.

Or maybe, just maybe, no white kid has been stupid enough to do that?

Not understanding what "proof" means doesn't bolster your argument. Rather, it just makes you another datapoint when it comes to picking a team. I really wish certain segments of the left would learn to take an L and grow from it.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by amiga386 »

benfortuna wrote: post #36
rdtsc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the incident in the news. Yeah, I could see if he was 8, taking an electronic component, stripping all the insides and moving it into new box and plugging it in sounds very plausible. But doing it 14, and then using what looks like a suitcase, where more than one adult thought it was a bomb, makes his story that it's just a "clock" a bit hard to believe. Moreover, the first teacher he showed it to, urged h…

>where more than one adult thought it was a bomb Clarification: more than one American adult, where collectively some states/localities are more likely to jump at shadows than others..

Indeed. Some states are brimming with absolute morons, especially in positions of power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_Mooninite_panic

These idiots run your country.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by rdtsc »

benfortuna wrote: post #36
rdtsc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the incident in the news. Yeah, I could see if he was 8, taking an electronic component, stripping all the insides and moving it into new box and plugging it in sounds very plausible. But doing it 14, and then using what looks like a suitcase, where more than one adult thought it was a bomb, makes his story that it's just a "clock" a bit hard to believe. Moreover, the first teacher he showed it to, urged h…

>where more than one adult thought it was a bomb Clarification: more than one American adult, where collectively some states/localities are more likely to jump at shadows than others..

Did the first teacher who asked him to just keep the device in his backpack "jump at shadows"? He knew what it looked like and was trying to help his student stay out of trouble. He didn't report him. Ok, so that's one "crazy" adult. The kid didn't listen.

Another teacher thought the same thing and asked him to put it away, and the kid didn't listen, again, and proceeds to set the alarm on the device. Only then they called the police. I guess, I don't see how brining this kind of a device, looking like a typical movie bomb, to a school in LA, NY (I don't know? think of the least "jumpy-at-shodows" area of the country) could have ended up any better without the police involvement. Heck, I am surprised the first teacher didn't report him and they didn't immediately evacuate the building.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed Clock Incident

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Post by rdtsc »

KingMob wrote: post #21
rdtsc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the incident in the news. Yeah, I could see if he was 8, taking an electronic component, stripping all the insides and moving it into new box and plugging it in sounds very plausible. But doing it 14, and then using what looks like a suitcase, where more than one adult thought it was a bomb, makes his story that it's just a "clock" a bit hard to believe. Moreover, the first teacher he showed it to, urged h…

Ehh. I'm sure any number of equally awkward HN commenters at 14 might have done the same, and if they weren't muslim, gotten the benefit of the doubt instead of being hauled off to the police dept.

> if they weren't muslim, gotten the benefit of the doubt instead of being hauled off to the police dept.

I don't see what that had so to with him being muslim? I don't see how bringing a most prototypical looking bomb-like device and not listening at least twice to the teacher put it away, then proceeding to set off the alarm on it, could have ended without the police involvement. If anything, the first teacher showed quite a bit of restraint and compassion, trying not to get the kid in trouble. So did the second teacher, up until the point the kid started to disobey and proceeded to set the alarm on it. Sure we can make fun of Texas being Islamophobic or backwards, I don't see how this would have played any better in California, or NY, for instance.

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