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C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Post by gjvc »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #48
sqeaky wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah appealing to that book is literally conspiracy nonsense when you're talking about a group of engineers trying to do good engineering. That appeal fundamentally means that there are people trying to actively sabotage a thing, that by itself is a conspiracy theory particularly when you consider that much of the standards committee has been doing standardization work for ages, and all of them are experienced engine…

It is a valid comparison to expose the similarity of one thing that someone thinks is reasonable to another thing that everyone should recognize is not. It is "LOL" to read that only literally.

Thank you; glad to see some people understand an analogy when they see one.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Post by lostmsu »

bun_terminator wrote: post #47
foonathan wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying "XXX is an asshole" if XXX is in fact an asshole is also the objective truth, yet warrants removal for insulting someone.

I genuinely don't think the word I used is comparable to asshole

It would be better to judge the whole thing if you quoted the word instead of going "the word I used". If you get flagged for quoting here, at least we will learn a valuable lesson.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Post by ezoe »

steveklabnik wrote: post #52

What actually happened: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1gynl1v/c_stan...

It's even more hard to believe.

So this person is infamous for submitting ChatGPT generated WG papers.

Then he was blamed for "question" title, he refuse to change the title, his sponsor cut the tie.

I don't know. I'm deeply worrying about brain drain on C++ standard committee.

I was a C++ committee member once. They failed to understand the importance of char8_t, thinking char is enough. Then, they depends on locale on std::format. I quit for I lost hope on C++.

You can't expel members from SC/WG but this is... what are they doing?

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Post by readthenotes1 »

neerd wrote: post #10

There has to be extra context here. There is no way we’re getting the full picture. If it really is just as simple as including “question” in the title of a paper then there is some serious mismanagement occurring.

Another comment pointed us to

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1gynl1v/commen...

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Post by readthenotes1 »

Animats wrote: post #25

Sigh. About 20 years ago, I suggested in comp.language.c++ on USENET that the committee's refusal to take memory safety seriously constituted material support of terrorism. That really got some people upset, and the posting was removed from USENET, which is hard to do. Now, of course, C++ is frantically trying to become memory-safe, with heavy pressure from the cybersecurity parts of the US government. Has anybody ev…

You could entitle your post "On the 'On the Question' Question"

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Post by ezoe »

thom wrote: post #31

This appears to be the source of the backlash: https://izzys.casa/2024/11/on-safe-cxx/

The entire article is a lot of name calling for many C++WG members for sexual harassers, rapists, hate speakers etc.

It argues that C++WG made various mistakes and full of incompetent members by presenting various seemingly technical topics but it's so random and unorganized it's hard to follow.

It doesn't make sense at all.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Post by bun_terminator »

foonathan wrote: post #34
bun_terminator wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Interesting that you did not choose to voice your opinions using your main accounts on that community then. I'd love to, but reddit and cpp keep banning/suspending accounts - so I can't! Funny how that works isn't it? > Nah, that was just the comment I used to get to your profile. I banned you for insulting someone. That is not true. Here is the message: > Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating…

> That is not true. I banned you, so I like to think I'm an authority on why you were banned. Here's a step by step timeline of what happened. 1. This comment of yours received a high number of reports and was automatically filtered: https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1gyiwwc/comment/lyp3jl... 2. I agreed with the reports and removed your comments. 3. I read the rest of the comments in your thread, and noticed you…

> Reddit administrators have now removed your comment as well.

yes of course they have, they banned my entire account. Because that's what reddit does. See my points above

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