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A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

>More than any other profession, many of us - as software developers, mathematicians, scientists - have a better grasp of complex systems. And most of us on HN have a healthy, deeply internalized sense of morality. I really hope some of us will branch out into politics or other power-positions in those institutions, and start knocking people's heads together. Having a good grasp of complex systems doesn't make one av…

No, but to state it has 0 positive effect is simply not true. Smarter, more knowledgeable people are much harder to manipulate via some trivial emotional tricks. Its not 100% shield, but sure as hell helps a lot. Look who is dying on russian's side in russian war - poor, remote and less educated part of russian society since they are so easy to manipulate - effectively considered disposable subhumans by russian leadershit.

Also, smarter folks understand that in hyper-complex structure like our global society, or on smaller nation scale, how good and freedom is something that's rare and practically unique for our current times, and should be protected at (almost) any cost since its loss may not be easily reversible for generations. Simpler folks care only about their own situation, bigger concepts are an afterthought at best.

Also, its much easier to spot manipulators and liars, typical populists these days really can't wrap their manipulation in some clever package that requires detailed analysis to unwrap, at least not most of them (and usually that's enough). When you can easily detect lies and twisting of truth you know who you deal with, you can assess both/multiple sides and weight on who is who much closer to actual truth.

Morality doesn't become some fancy foreign inconvenient concept but understanding how things that go around come around, always, and how only so you can build strong free society with bright future. And so on.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

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Must be a long Sunday in FSB/GRU offices, no? Or did they move you to yet another military department?

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

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The main reason for the invasion is that Putin believes independent Ukraine shouldn't exist, and that it all belongs to Russia for historical reasons. It's obvious if you actually listen Putin's speeches.

NATO is just an useful scapegoat to justify Russia's imperialistic tendencies. During the period between fall of the Soviet Union and invasion of Crimea Russian businessmen here in Finland kept buying locations and buildings near military bases and strategic infrastructure, even though we had no intention whatsoever of joining NATO. They just like to subjugate their neighbours.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Someone up for a tldr? Because after 10 mins reading I still see no meaningful content except the usual word wasting stories of the Washington post. Still no idea what the mystery is about exactly?

No mystery, really:

Dead soldier's descendant goes looking for the details of his death, finds descendant of another (surviving) soldier that was good friends with him. That surviving soldier's descendant had documented the stories that surviving soldier had told, including the occasion of the first soldier's death(and their friendship). The death happened due to getting hit by a shell during an offensive.

It's an engaging story, which I'm of course not doing justice to here, but the word "mystery" is just absolute clickbait.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'll be quite clear about it: a nuclear superpower invaded a disarmed neighbor, and is currently committing genocide on its territory. This is unquestionably, unconscionably, unacceptably wrong. Gee, when you put it like that, why are we waiting to conscript my only son and send him to die in foreign lands?

Foreign lands? We all live on the same planet.

You can explain it to officers when crossing border without passport and visa.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

> I'll be quite clear about it: a nuclear superpower invaded a disarmed neighbor, and is currently committing genocide on its territory. This is unquestionably, unconscionably, unacceptably wrong. Gee, when you put it like that, why are we waiting to conscript my only son and send him to die in foreign lands?

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"Sixteen years old when I went to the war To fight for a land fit for heroes God on my side, and a gun in my hand Chasing my days down to zero"--Motorhead, 1916 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTG6I3jxdnc

I was the first fruits of the battle of Missionary Ridge. When I felt the bullet enter my heart I wished I had staid at home and gone to jail For stealing the hogs of Curl Trenary, Instead of running away and joining the army. Rather a thousand times the country jail Than to lie under this marble figure with wings, And this granite pedestal Bearing the words, ”Pro Patria.” What do they mean, anyway? - Edgar Lee Maste…

I haven’t thought about Spoon River Anthology in much too long. Thanks, I used to enjoy drawing connections, need to go take another look.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

Yeah, we're way smarter than the common man(and the people in power), we ought to be the ones who control everything! There is no possible way this line of thinking could lead to negative outcomes!

>I'll be quite clear about it: a nuclear superpower invaded a disarmed neighbor, and is currently committing genocide on its territory. This is unquestionably, unconscionably, unacceptably wrong.

It surely is your amazing grasp of complex systems that allows you to make such a 2-dimensional assessment of the situation. Can I vote for you as World Controller right now?

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

Yeah, we're way smarter than the common man( and the people in power), we ought to be the ones who control everything! There is no possible way this line of thinking could lead to negative outcomes! >I'll be quite clear about it: a nuclear superpower invaded a disarmed neighbor, and is currently committing genocide on its territory. This is unquestionably, unconscionably, unacceptably wrong. It surely is your amazing…

> allows you to make such a 2-dimensional assessment

Surely there were many complex causes which resulted in Germany invading Poland back in 1939, and Poland itself at the time was a deeply flawed state in quite a few ways?

So of course you would also say that that event could not be described as “unquestionably, unconscionably, unacceptably wrong”?

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