'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought

Post by thrw42A8N » Sat, Nov 23, 2024, 9:09 AM UTC

MrMcCall wrote: post #8

comboy wrote: post #3

Not sure if that' more than a person sitting in the office writing this when you take into account all electricity used by the building, maintenance, other people (catering cleaning etc.) And I think this energy-shaming whether that's AI crypto or something else is just a wrong approach. If somebody buys energy he can use it for mindless entertainment if he so pleases, why focus on datacenters and not Disneyland?

ChatGPT is not housing anyone, nor is it providing office space. Even Disneyland is at least providing joy for children and adults.

Post by soulofmischief » Sat, Nov 23, 2024, 9:11 AM UTC

MrMcCall wrote: post #8

comboy wrote: post #3

Not sure if that' more than a person sitting in the office writing this when you take into account all electricity used by the building, maintenance, other people (catering cleaning etc.) And I think this energy-shaming whether that's AI crypto or something else is just a wrong approach. If somebody buys energy he can use it for mindless entertainment if he so pleases, why focus on datacenters and not Disneyland?

ChatGPT is not housing anyone, nor is it providing office space. Even Disneyland is at least providing joy for children and adults.

Post by MrMcCall » Sat, Nov 23, 2024, 9:12 AM UTC

robertlagrant wrote: post #16

MrMcCall wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT is not housing anyone, nor is it providing office space. Even Disneyland is at least providing joy for children and adults.

Disneyland also involves a lot of plane flights and driving to get to it. If you add all that up it's a lot more.

Post by modeless » Sat, Nov 23, 2024, 9:12 AM UTC

MezzoDelCammin wrote: post #20

comboy wrote: post #3

Not sure if that' more than a person sitting in the office writing this when you take into account all electricity used by the building, maintenance, other people (catering cleaning etc.) And I think this energy-shaming whether that's AI crypto or something else is just a wrong approach. If somebody buys energy he can use it for mindless entertainment if he so pleases, why focus on datacenters and not Disneyland?

I think the idea behind energy shaming is that energy price rarely includes its externalities (probably resources depletion and pollution). "If You buy it, You do what You want with it" is of course legally correct. But I think the argument they're trying to make subconsciously in is that there's someone else who will have to pay part of the price for it.

Post by groestl » Sat, Nov 23, 2024, 9:13 AM UTC

MezzoDelCammin wrote: post #20

comboy wrote: post #3

Not sure if that' more than a person sitting in the office writing this when you take into account all electricity used by the building, maintenance, other people (catering cleaning etc.) And I think this energy-shaming whether that's AI crypto or something else is just a wrong approach. If somebody buys energy he can use it for mindless entertainment if he so pleases, why focus on datacenters and not Disneyland?

I think the idea behind energy shaming is that energy price rarely includes its externalities (probably resources depletion and pollution). "If You buy it, You do what You want with it" is of course legally correct. But I think the argument they're trying to make subconsciously in is that there's someone else who will have to pay part of the price for it.