'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
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Re: 'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
#2The water doesn’t disappear.
Most data centres use water in their chiller units, as do many large industrial facilities.
ChatGPT is a minority of the energy, heat, and cooling budget of Azure, which is a minority of the world’s data centre footprint.
ChatGPT is useful.
This article is not.
Re: 'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
#3Not sure if that' more than a person sitting in the office writing this when you take into account all electricity used by the building, maintenance, other people (catering cleaning etc.)
And I think this energy-shaming whether that's AI crypto or something else is just a wrong approach. If somebody buys energy he can use it for mindless entertainment if he so pleases, why focus on datacenters and not Disneyland?
Re: 'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
#4> Many data centres use water-based systems to cool the plant with towers evaporating the heat, like a huge perspiration system, which means that the water is lost.
Someone doesn't know what "evaporation" or "lost" means.
Re: 'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
#5One avocado takes 320 liters, I'd rather give up on avocado than Claude.
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#6All that to get some percent hallucination, whose logic can't be traced? It's just another tech dead-end that leaves us all the worse, and the haves having more. It's just more waste on the level of bitcoin. It's the nature of selfishness: shortsighted with no global benefit, only global waste.
Compassion for the Earth, herself, dictates we forge a different path, where folks like Google, Facebook, and elmo are not deciding our collective fate.
Re: 'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
#7All that to get some percent hallucination, whose logic can't be traced? It's just another tech dead-end that leaves us all the worse, and the haves having more. It's just more waste on the level of bitcoin. It's the nature of selfishness: shortsighted with no global benefit, only global waste. Compassion for the Earth, herself, dictates we forge a different path, where folks like Google, Facebook, and elmo are not d…
Unfortunately we're in a global prisoner's dilemma. Nobody wants the future we're all desperately racing towards building.
Re: 'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
#8Not sure if that' more than a person sitting in the office writing this when you take into account all electricity used by the building, maintenance, other people (catering cleaning etc.) And I think this energy-shaming whether that's AI crypto or something else is just a wrong approach. If somebody buys energy he can use it for mindless entertainment if he so pleases, why focus on datacenters and not Disneyland?
ChatGPT is not housing anyone, nor is it providing office space. Even Disneyland is at least providing joy for children and adults.
Re: 'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
#9Not sure if that' more than a person sitting in the office writing this when you take into account all electricity used by the building, maintenance, other people (catering cleaning etc.) And I think this energy-shaming whether that's AI crypto or something else is just a wrong approach. If somebody buys energy he can use it for mindless entertainment if he so pleases, why focus on datacenters and not Disneyland?
Agreed. If it's useful, why not scale up the electricity and water supply, and make the latter sustainable.
Re: 'Thirsty' ChatGPT uses four times more water than previously thought
#10All that to get some percent hallucination, whose logic can't be traced? It's just another tech dead-end that leaves us all the worse, and the haves having more. It's just more waste on the level of bitcoin. It's the nature of selfishness: shortsighted with no global benefit, only global waste. Compassion for the Earth, herself, dictates we forge a different path, where folks like Google, Facebook, and elmo are not d…
Unfortunately we're in a global prisoner's dilemma. Nobody wants the future we're all desperately racing towards building.
Somebody wants it, or it wouldn't be being built. No, the correct framing is that this is a case of the ignorant leading the powerless.