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Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Rival? They kick you out after a few messages and ask you to come back later. Gpt doesn't do that

Are you a paying customer? I exclusively use their best model and while I get warnings (stuff about longer chats leading to more limit usage), I've never been kicked out. The only thing is that they've recently started defaulting to Concise to cut costs, which is fine with me.

I used GPT as a free customer and now a paid one. I was never asked to leave after a few messages (20ish) by GPT.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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post #82

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> Case in point, as much as I despise Apple, they are not all-in the AI bandwagon because it does nothing for them. not sure if you've been paying attention, but AI is literally _the only thing_ Apple talks about these days. They literally released _an entire generation of devices_ where the only new thing is "Apple Intelligence"

Is Apple investing in AI as much as Google, Meta, Microsoft, and xAI? If not they are not "all in".

they are investing differently. Apple has a much more captive audience than the others, and as such is focused on AI services that can be run on device. as such, they aren't doing the blessing edge foundation modern research, but instead putting a ton of money into productionizing smaller models that can be run without giant cloud compute.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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post #151

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Ummm okay? A scam implies someone is getting hurt (financially, emotionally, etc.). Who's getting scammed here?

The big tech companies are spending enormous amounts for part ownership in startups whose only assets are knowledge that exists in the public domain, systems that the companies could have engineered themselves, and model weights trained with the buyer's own capital. The people who will get hurt are public investors who are having their investment used to make a few startup people really rich.

If the scam only hurts investors i'd say it's likely a net benefit to humanity.

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Anthropic should double down on the strategy of being the better code generator. No I don't need an AI agent to call the restaurant for me. Win the developers over and the rest will follow.

Developers, developers, developers!

More seriously: I think there are a ton of potential applications. I'm not sure that developers that use AI tools are more likely to build other AI products - maybe.

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I had to switch from Pro to Teams plan and pay 150 USD for 5 accounts because the Pro plan has gotten unusable. It will allow me to ask a dozen or so questions and then will block me for hours because of „high capacity.“ I don’t need five accounts, one for 40 USD would be totally fine if it would allow me to work uninterrupted for a couple of hours. All in all Claude is magic. It feels like having ten assistants at m…

Why don't you use the API with LibreChat instead?

Can I replicate the „Projects“ feature where I upload files and text to give context? And will it allow me to follow up on previous chats?

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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post #151

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Ummm okay? A scam implies someone is getting hurt (financially, emotionally, etc.). Who's getting scammed here?

The big tech companies are spending enormous amounts for part ownership in startups whose only assets are knowledge that exists in the public domain, systems that the companies could have engineered themselves, and model weights trained with the buyer's own capital. The people who will get hurt are public investors who are having their investment used to make a few startup people really rich.

If they could build it themselves, why haven't they? Say what you want about Amazon, but I find it hard to believe that Anthropic bamboozled them into believing they can't build their own AI when they could do it cheaper.

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Curious if anyone knows the logistics of these cloud provider/AI company deals. In this case, it seems like the terms of the deal mean that Anthropic ends up spending most of the investment on AWS to pay for training. Does anthropic basically get at cost pricing on AWS? If Amazon has any margin on their pricing, it seems like this $4B investment ends up costing them a lot less, and this is a nice way to turn a cap ex…

...isn't it tax fraud with extra steps? Asking seriously.

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Yes exactly. This was the brilliance of the original MSFT investment into OpenAI. It was an investment in Azure scaling its AI training infra, but roundabout through a massive customer (exactly what you’d want as a design partner) and getting equity. I’m sure Anthropic negotiated a great deal on their largest cost center, while Amazon gets a huge customer to build out their system with.

That’s honestly one of the hardest things in engineering — identifying not just a customer to drive requirements, but a knowledgeable customer who can drive good requirements that work for a broader user base and can drive further expansion. Anthropic seems ideal for that, plus they act as a service/API provider on AWS.

Yeah this working with knowledgeable customer is like magic.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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post #314

Anthropic should double down on the strategy of being the better code generator. No I don't need an AI agent to call the restaurant for me. Win the developers over and the rest will follow.

Developers, developers, developers! More seriously: I think there are a ton of potential applications. I'm not sure that developers that use AI tools are more likely to build other AI products - maybe.

Reference for the memberberries: https://youtu.be/Vhh_GeBPOhs

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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post #299

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Normal people aren't paying for LLMs. If they ever do Apple and Google will offer it as a service built into your phone . For example, you could say ok Google call that restaurant me and My girlfriend had our first date at 5 years ago, set up something nice so I can propose. And I guess Google Gemini ( or whatever it's called at this point), Will hire a band, some photographers, and maybe even a therapist just in cas…

> Normal people aren't paying for LLMs. I know relatively "normal" people with no interest in software who pay for ChatGPT.

Most. Most normal people.

Sure I know people who pay for it too; but I know a lot of people who like free things and don’t or can’t pay for subscriptions.

Do you think most people have a spare $30 to spend every month on something they already get for free?

At the moment? I don’t.

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