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Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

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Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

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http://www.zedshaw.com/conferences/cusec2008.factor

I can't seem to figure out how to run this... I downloaded the OS X distribution, opened it, selected "Run..." from the File menu, and selected the cusec2008.factor file. Now what?

Why was this downvoted? I'm asking a legitimate question.

Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

#42

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I can't seem to figure out how to run this... I downloaded the OS X distribution, opened it, selected "Run..." from the File menu, and selected the cusec2008.factor file. Now what?

Why was this downvoted? I'm asking a legitimate question.

Probably because it's explained on the video page:

http://vimeo.com/2723800

If you are still having trouble try:

  USE: cusec2008
  
  start-presentation

Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

#43
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.zedshaw.com/conferences/cusec2008.factor

I can't seem to figure out how to run this... I downloaded the OS X distribution, opened it, selected "Run..." from the File menu, and selected the cusec2008.factor file. Now what?

Make a 'cusec2008' directory in the distribution's `work' directory, and put the .factor file there. Open the factor runtime, type

USE: cusec2008 start-presentation

and then hit enter. No, not the most user friendly of processes. But I suppose it's the price you pay for being the indiest of indie.

Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

#45

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Thanks for posting this; the part at 40:00 actually motivated me to view the rest, which I recommend to anybody working in a corporate job. Hopefully this summary does justice to the remainder (but IMO it's worth watching): 40:00 Essentially he says you're not defined by your job. Your outside projects represent your self-expression and the corporation doesn't get a piece of that. 42:00: Most companies treat programm…

Well I think his audience is "corporate programmer" types isn't it? cause what he says is just confusing to the rest of us.

Actually his audience are people who happen to have days jobs as corporate programmers. The difference is both small and large.

Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

#46

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Q&A was good - I think Zed is wildly missing the non technology/boring business aspects of starting up (I guess he hasn't tried to start something up before? Or maybe he has...).

Reading your post and considering it further, I guess his message is less about starting up than about how to survive a day job and continue to grow as a human being by doing interesting work at night. Blub work on a startup at night could be another path away from employment that isn't really addressed in the presentation (though it's very difficult to pull off, IMO).

It's strikes me that his advice on how to avoid getting burnt out at work is advice that is precisely designed to ensure that your day job is boring, unfulfilling and that you never get given any tasks that are interesting or designed to let you stretch your intellectual wings.

Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

#47
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Notes from lunchtime viewing of first 40 min ------------------------------------ ~9:29: "law is actually kind of a turing complete language" Law is fuzzy; ACLs are fuzzy. ACLs can't handle real law because they're not Turing complete. ~11:20: had a business manager learn Ruby, had him implement poorly specified/tough features --> result: he modified/eliminated requirement ~12:20: a bunch of if statements are easier…

The misconceptions that some technical people have about MBAs are kind of funny, but also rather pathetic. The program I went through put very little emphasis on manufacturing.

Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

#48
Zed Shaw: Joe Hill of programming. Though rather than organizing workers into unions/factions of the IWW he is advocating people reserve their "real" programming/creativity for themselves unless they stand to make a profit (which they would if labor conditions were equitable). I can totally get behind that.

Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

#49
post #45

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Well I think his audience is "corporate programmer" types isn't it? cause what he says is just confusing to the rest of us.

Actually his audience are people who happen to have days jobs as corporate programmers. The difference is both small and large.

Right - yes understood.

I guess the actually title of his talk is less interesting to most (but its good for people to realise ACLs and such are just not practical anymore - its a worthy talk subject !). I think I discovered that about ACLs a while ago, but assumed it was a specific problem with whatever I worked on, not that its a general issue with the ACL approach.

Re: Zed Shaw - The ACL is Dead - CUSEC 2008

#50
This whole "must follow speaker with camera" thing has _got_ to stop. Just stick the camera on the slides and leave it there. _At least_ get both in the frame. This is pushing unwatchable with him pointing to the slides all the time, the audience laughing at the slides, he's referring to code on the slides... Kill me :/
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