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Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by cruffle_duffle »

dimitri-vs wrote: post #247
cruffle_duffle wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know the craziest thing I’ve seen ChatGPT do is claim to have made a change to my terraform code acting all “ohh here is some changes to reflect all the things you commented on” and all it did was change the comments. It’s very bizarre when it rewrites the exact same code a second or third time and for some reason decides to change the comments. The comments will have the same meaning but will be slightly differe…

Probably an overcorrection from when people were complaining very vocally about ChatGPT being "lazy" and not providing all the code. FWIW I've seen Claude do the same thing when asked do debug something it obviously did not know how to fix it would just repeatedly refactor the same sections of code and making changes to comments.

I feel like “all the code” and “only the changes” needs to be an actual per chat option. Sometimes you want the changes sometimes you want all the code and it is annoying because it always seems to decide it’s gonna do the opposite of what you wanted… meaning another correction and thus wasted tokens and context. And even worse it pollutes your scroll back with noise.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by DAGdug »

mikeocool wrote: post #5

Curious if anyone knows the logistics of these cloud provider/AI company deals. In this case, it seems like the terms of the deal mean that Anthropic ends up spending most of the investment on AWS to pay for training. Does anthropic basically get at cost pricing on AWS? If Amazon has any margin on their pricing, it seems like this $4B investment ends up costing them a lot less, and this is a nice way to turn a cap ex…

This assumes they have no constraint when it comes to supply, and therefore no opportunity cost.

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Post by versteegen »

hirvi74 wrote: post #225
rmbyrro wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sonnet is better than 4o for virtually all use cases. The only reason I still use OpenAI's API and chatbot service is o1-preview. o1 is like magic. Everything Sonnet and 4o do poorly, o1 solves like a piece of cake. Architecting, bug fixing, planning, refactoring, o1 has never let me know on any 'hard' task. A nice combo is have o1 guiding Sonnet. I ask o1 to come up with a solution and explanation, then simply feed…

I alluded to this in another comment, but I have 4o to be better than Sonnet in Swift, Obj-C, and Applescript. In my experiences, Claude is worse than useless with those three languages when compared to GPT. Everything else, I'd say the differences haven't been too extreme. Though, o1-preview absolutely smokes both in my experiences too, but it isn't hard for me to hit it's rate limit either.

Interesting. I haven't compared with 4o or GPT4, but I found DeepSeek 2.5 seems to be better than Claude 3.5 Sonnet (new) at Julia. Although I've seen both Claude and DeepSeek make the exact same sequence of errors (when asked about a certain bug and then given the same reply to their identical mistakes) that shows they don't fully understand the syntax for passing keyword arguments to Julia functions... wow. It was not some kind of tricky case or relevant to the bug. Must have same bad training data. Oops, that's diversion. Actually they're both great in general.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by asadotzler »

herval wrote: post #100
surgical_fire wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It appears to be a scam because it sort of is. AI needs to be propped up because the bug tech cloud providers they depend on need AI to be a thing to justify their valuations. Tech is going through a bit of a slump where all things being hyped a few years ago sort of died down (crypto? VR? Voice assistants? Metaverse?). Nobody gets very hyped about any of those nowadays. I am probably forgetting a couple of hyped thi…

Trivia: not sure if you’re aware, but there’s billion dollar companies in all these spaces you claim “nobody cares about”. Every single stock broker in the US trades crypto now. Omniverse earns Nvidia a ton of money, Apple earned a billion dollars with a clunky v1 and Meta is selling more and more Quests every half.

Apple has spent over $10B on AVP and made back less than 10% of that with no signs of improvement in the next year or two and continued big spending on dev and content.

Meta has spent over $50B on Quest and the Metaverse with fewer than 10M MAU to show for it.

If you think those are successes, I'll go out and get several bridges to sell you. Meet me here tomorrow with cash.

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Post by DirkH »

k1musab1 wrote: post #269
UltraSane wrote: post #254

Claude Sonnet 3.5 is simply amazing. No matter how much I used it I continue to be amazed at what it can produce. I recently asked it what the flow of data is when two vNICs on the same host send data to each other and it produced a very detailed answer complete with a really nice diagram. I then asked what langue the diagram uses and it said Mermaid. So I then asked it to produce some example L1,2,3 diagrams for com…

VS Code has a plugin Cline, using your api key it will run Claude sonnet, can edit and create files in the workspace, and run commands in the terminal to check functionality, read errors, and correct them.

This makes it sound to me like Cursor is a waste of money?

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Post by mkl »

reducesuffering wrote: post #175
uptownfunk wrote: post #117

AWS is just playing copycat with msft. They rarely have any good original ideas. Other than IaaS and online retail.

And you think MSFT isn't 95% copycat? Teams is Slack clone. Azure is AWS clone. SurfaceBook (remember those?) Macbook clone. Edge is Chrome clone. Bing is Google clone. Even VSCode was an Atom/Electron fork and Windows Subsystem for Linux...

Surface Books are nothing like Macbooks - Macbooks don't have a touch screen, pen support, or reversible screen tablet mode, and the whole structure is completely different. Surface Pro, Surface Book, and Surface Laptop Studio are some of the most original laptop form factors I've seen.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by stingraycharles »

cauthon wrote: post #289
yoyohello13 wrote: post #287

Claude is absolutely incredible. And I don’t trust openAI or Microsoft so it’s nice to have an alternative.

Amazon famously more trustworthy

Google also invested $2B into Anthrophic. Seems like both Google and Amazon are providing credits for their cloud, also as a hedge against Microsoft / OpenAI becoming too big.
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