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Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #17

I'm all for making reading easier on us by condensing it. But this article takes their (rediff.com) entire post, posts it in full and never gives them credit. Why isn't this plagiarism?

Plagiarism would be taking credit for having written the article. But you're right that there is a potential copyright violation -- unless the copyright owner has given pg permission to reprint the article in its entirety without attribution.

Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #17

I'm all for making reading easier on us by condensing it. But this article takes their (rediff.com) entire post, posts it in full and never gives them credit. Why isn't this plagiarism?

I'm assuming PG did this for his own benefit, and then made it public. Having said that, this is a nitpicky and yet very serious charge - PG, you need to stick in a credit to the original source.

Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #17

I'm all for making reading easier on us by condensing it. But this article takes their (rediff.com) entire post, posts it in full and never gives them credit. Why isn't this plagiarism?

Larry Page said it, right?

So, who is being plagiarized?

Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #17

I'm all for making reading easier on us by condensing it. But this article takes their (rediff.com) entire post, posts it in full and never gives them credit. Why isn't this plagiarism?

original link: http://specials.rediff.com/money/2009/jan/05slide1-want-to-s...

though pg should have posted source link with his note, i dont think that even rediff.com is the copyright owner - to what i understand pg did it in the good faith to help HN readers and that's what it matters ...

Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #19

# You don't want to be Tesla. He was one of the greatest inventors, but it's a sad, sad story. He couldn't commercialise anything, he could barely fund his own research. You'd want to be more like Edison. If you invent something, that doesn't necessarily help anybody. You've got to actually get it into the world; you've got to produce, make money doing it so you can fund it. The other Edison vs Tesla difference that…

...kind of like that 37signals design post a few days ago, no?

Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #19

# You don't want to be Tesla. He was one of the greatest inventors, but it's a sad, sad story. He couldn't commercialise anything, he could barely fund his own research. You'd want to be more like Edison. If you invent something, that doesn't necessarily help anybody. You've got to actually get it into the world; you've got to produce, make money doing it so you can fund it. The other Edison vs Tesla difference that…

...kind of like that 37signals design post a few days ago, no?

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Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #17

I'm all for making reading easier on us by condensing it. But this article takes their (rediff.com) entire post, posts it in full and never gives them credit. Why isn't this plagiarism?

This is simple copyright infringement, which is distinct from plagiarism.

However, I have another complaint. Why a plain text file? I don't want to have to download some bloated reader just to read this thing. Can someone print to pdf and upload it to something sensible like scribd?

Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #13
post #2

Seems more like a Google press release than anything sincere. Maybe trying to regain their preferred status among the top talent looking for work during these tumultuous times?

Maybe trying to regain their preferred status among the top talent looking for work Have they lost it? Whom have they lost it to?

At least on this site, it sounds like any startup would be preferred to any established company including google. Although that really does seem to be mostly the tone of this site.

Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like quotes from old interviews.

He mentions that they "just launched Gmail". Guessing 2004? Not sure why it's appearing 5 years later though.

Yeah, but then he says they launched with 30,000,000 Web pages indexed two years ago. This appears to be a bunch of quotes compiled from different interviews over a span of many years.

Re: Secrets of success from Google co-founder Larry Page

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post #19

# You don't want to be Tesla. He was one of the greatest inventors, but it's a sad, sad story. He couldn't commercialise anything, he could barely fund his own research. You'd want to be more like Edison. If you invent something, that doesn't necessarily help anybody. You've got to actually get it into the world; you've got to produce, make money doing it so you can fund it. The other Edison vs Tesla difference that…

It seems to me the ideal would be a combination of Edison and Tesla. There's no reason one person couldn't have both Edison's work capacity and Tesla's theoretical genius. Certainly many of the best scientists qualify: Newton, for example, or Euler. Euler was incredibly prolific---his lifetime output fills shelf upon shelf---and yet he was undeniably a mathematical genius as well. In music, J.S. Bach also fits the mold of incredibly hard-working genius.
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