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Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by munksbeer »

david-gpu wrote: post #107
Aeolun wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, you should kind of expect that if you move to the other end of the world?

It is one of those things that sounds "obvious" when somebody points it out to you, but I can tell you from personal experience and from several other people that when you are in the midst of moving abroad you have lots of other things in your mind and, frankly, rose colored glasses on. What you find online tends to be the many people who spent a year or two abroad talking about what a cool experience it was, not lon…

>Where are the long-term immigrants --typically with spouses and children-- talking only about the positives?

Here. I'm an immigrant to the UK. I've been here 20 years. I love it here, except for the weather, which I miss from my home country.

I do miss a lot of other things, but all in all I've made my life in the UK and settled here with children.

I think I'm one of many, many millions of people globally who have done this and speak positively. I'm not sure why that seems far fetched to you?

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by munksbeer »

poszlem wrote: post #134

Coming from an Eastern European country to the UK, I was told by many colleagues who had also moved there that people in the UK are very difficult to befriend (make friends, not acquaintances), as if it were part of English culture. "They are just like that," they would say. I made many friends with other immigrants from all over Europe. This suggested that the English were somehow uniquely challenging to befriend. W…

I'm an immigrant to the UK and I agree with you. This sort of thing gets said about a lot of countries, you will hear the same thing said from British people who move to Australia or NZ.

I've been in the UK 20 years now and I don't have a lot of British friends, even now. I moved when I was 27 years old. The friends I have are from common interests and work. I was lucky enough to meet one great friend at a workplace who loved rugby and skiing and socialising, like I do. We spent a lot of after work nights getting drunk in pubs, and we played rugby and went on skiing holidays. I then met a few of his friends, some of whom I've now become very good friends with, all these years we're still friends. But I can count these on one hand.

I don't resent it, though I do lament it. It's just that bonds tend to form early in your life and it becomes a lot more difficult later.

On the other hand, it was easy to make friends with people from my home country because you have something in common and you are all looking to make friends. And it's easy to network, because you just need one connection to get into a social circle.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by munksbeer »

incomingpain wrote: post #143

As a Canadian, where would I go abroad to? We do have our first ever illegitimate prime minister; found guilty of major civil right violations. Seizing bank accounts without court order or any due process. Arresting people on charges of mischief for words said online. State media willing to publish extreme lies to justify the government's illegal behaviours... It's reasonable to wish to leave Canada; but generally sp…

> Australia's gun laws eliminate the consideration of ever moving there.

Interesting to see how people filter. From my perspective, that would be a plus point of moving there. I love that you cannot own a gun in the UK.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by acuozzo »

hshshshshsh wrote: post #49
amiga386 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you are not a tabula rasa. You are made of a genetic code inherited from your parents, which strongly determines how you look and your body can do. You were clothed, fed, raised, cultured, taught by your family and others in their geographic area. The self has a heritage even if the self refuses to accept it. You are your parents' child and not someone else, for the same reason you are also a human, a hominid, a…

If I am made of genetic code, why do they say I die and no longer exists even though the body remains?

If CPUs are made of transistors, then why do we call them broken when they stop functioning even though the chip still remains?

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by lippihom »

misja111 wrote: post #9

> But I was told on day one Twitter orientation to “Walk fast”. Drugged homeless people approached me, one guy tried to hit me while waiting to cross the street. WTF, is this really the reality of living in San Francisco?

Good video with a more accurate picture of what's going on in SF - https://youtu.be/zAfVNkSRSM4 (Peter Santenello is great).

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by Aeolun »

david-gpu wrote: post #107
Aeolun wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, you should kind of expect that if you move to the other end of the world?

It is one of those things that sounds "obvious" when somebody points it out to you, but I can tell you from personal experience and from several other people that when you are in the midst of moving abroad you have lots of other things in your mind and, frankly, rose colored glasses on. What you find online tends to be the many people who spent a year or two abroad talking about what a cool experience it was, not lon…

Living abroad is great. Not seeing your old friends so often any more is hard. But you have the same issue whether you move half the world or two hours away from them.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by hshshshshsh »

amiga386 wrote: post #187
hshshshshsh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I am made of genetic code, why do they say I die and no longer exists even though the body remains?

Your genetic code shapes who you are and how you appear to others when you're alive. If you're alluding to the existence of some transcendental self, can you at least accept it is inseparable from your corporeal self?

I think the corporeal self is an illusion.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by hshshshshsh »

acuozzo wrote: post #194
hshshshshsh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I am made of genetic code, why do they say I die and no longer exists even though the body remains?

If CPUs are made of transistors, then why do we call them broken when they stop functioning even though the chip still remains?

Are you saying CPUs are alive as in how humans and birds are alive and have conscious experiences? What is that experience? Is it the body? Or something else ?

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by incomingpain »

munksbeer wrote: post #193
incomingpain wrote: post #143

As a Canadian, where would I go abroad to? We do have our first ever illegitimate prime minister; found guilty of major civil right violations. Seizing bank accounts without court order or any due process. Arresting people on charges of mischief for words said online. State media willing to publish extreme lies to justify the government's illegal behaviours... It's reasonable to wish to leave Canada; but generally sp…

> Australia's gun laws eliminate the consideration of ever moving there. Interesting to see how people filter. From my perspective, that would be a plus point of moving there. I love that you cannot own a gun in the UK.

Ive been to Australia twice. LOVED IT there are so many good reasons to go and I'm not at all scared of their poisonous critters.

>Interesting to see how people filter. From my perspective, that would be a plus point of moving there. I love that you cannot own a gun in the UK.

As a Canadian, I legitimately didnt understand the value or brilliance of the 2nd amendment until the last few years.

If you live in a country which doesn't have civilian ownership of guns, you dont live in a free country. You may have been misled into believing it is a free country but it's not. That's black and white.

You mention UK.

How about your "Snoopers charter" where the UK government has a full copy of every text, comment, or phonecall. The only thing they dont collect is video chats. They have an extensive database log of you and they know more about you and your personality than you do.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-60707646

Howabout major civil rights violations and disallowing of protests?

How about that windrush scandal? The rwanda deportations?

How about all the arrests of journalists? David Miranda was killed by MI6.

https://www.mygov.scot/police-stop-search

The scot police can just stop and search you and your vehicle whenever they please?

In the USA, 1st amendment auditors are all over youtube because police in usa think they can get away with this, but apparently stop and search your papers in the UK is real?

The USA has Terry-Ohio but the UK has never had that i guess?

How about the UK's "non-crime hate incidents" which straight up is just anti-free speech. But then again the UK has no affirmative right to free speech.

How about that guy who said mean words online, was anti-migrant. 3 years in prison for speech.

Lets be realistic, the UK isnt a free country and there's literally only 1 reason why. The lack of civilian ownership of firearms.

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