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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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justin66 wrote: post #60
nabla9 wrote: post #12

(before you jump into discussion, remember that this only about these two individuals) ICC and the prosecutor are on very solid ground here. The prosecutor asked opinions from a impartial panel of experts in international law. The panel included people like Theodor Meron (former Legal adviser for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs), Helene Kennedy, Adrian Fulford. Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant provided plenty of ev…

> Did they really think that when they talk Hebrew to their audience, rest of the world does not hear them. When it comes to US public opinion, that's normally the way it works.

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by edanm »

newspaper1 wrote: post #225
StefanBatory wrote: post #215

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I didn't know about this before, thanks :| I thought he was much more of a moderate in Netanyahu cabinet.

There's a large attempt to pin all of this on Netanyahu and his closest cabinet but what he's saying is pretty much supported by nearly all of Israeli society down to individual citizens. I encourage everyone to find people who live in Israel on X and translate their tweets so they can see for themselves.

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Post by recroad »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #473

I really don't think this belongs on the front page. It is a highly divisive political issue with strong radicalisation at the edges of any discourse on it. I have my own strong opinions on it, but arguing it does not in my opinon belong on the front page here. There are plenty of places you can go and have this discussion in as heated of a version as you prefer.

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Post by latentcall »

underdeserver wrote: post #560
latentcall wrote: post #338

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Oct. 7 was incredibly useful for Israel give it the casus belli to destroy resistance and settle Gaza. Lebanon will be the cherry on top. Why kill one guy when you can kill all resistance and (future possible) resistance and tada you have a bunch of land and can expand your borders.

1200 dead including children and elderly. Useful. Are you serious?

Yes I am serious. Obviously 1200 dead is sad. Disregarding the emotions, on an Israeli political level it IS useful to rally the country to finally handle the Palestine problem once and for all, which is what is happening right now.

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bjoli wrote: post #680
bbqfog wrote: post #144

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I've also struggled with looking at the tweets of the investors of our startup. When they were denying the first (of many) hospital bombings, I started thinking about finding a new job.

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Post by Hikikomori »

dlubarov wrote: post #496
pagade wrote: post #463

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Antisemitic. Every time I hear this word, I can’t help but think of its irony—a term used exclusively for describing discrimination against one community, as if prejudice against them carries more weight than against any other. Perhaps, though, it serves as the best reflection of our hypocrisy.

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Does Israels actions over the years have any impact on how Jews are treated elsewhere?

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Post by edanm »

StefanBatory wrote: post #215
newspaper1 wrote: post #186

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Gallant's position is that there are no innocent people in Gaza and that they should be starved to death. He's said this many times: https://x.com/KhalilJeries/status/1853905224320372923

I didn't know about this before, thanks :| I thought he was much more of a moderate in Netanyahu cabinet.

He is a member of Netanyahu's party, which is a right-wing party (though not far-right in terms of Israeli politics).

He is certainly not a moderate, but he is far more trusted than Netanyahu and is considered a moderating and opposing influence on him by many people. Mostly representing the interested of the defence establishment, as opposed to purely political interests (or, if you ask me, as opposed to Netanyahu's only real interest, which is himself).

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Post by throw_pm23 »

magic_hamster wrote: post #301
bbqfog wrote: post #144

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Israel was massively radicalized by October 7th. Prior to October 7th, a lot of Israelis believed that if Palestinians had a better economy and could afford a comfortable life, peace would be possible. October 7th was not just a surprise to many Israelis, but also the atrocities were so horrible that it radically changed how Israelis view the situation. This is hard to grasp, but a lot of people don't really understa…

It is telling that you also mention "better economy" and "comfortable life", but not "equal rights" or "self-government" or any such thing. Even with animals in the zoo one doesn't think that all they need is being well-fed.
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