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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by lesuorac »

Qem wrote: post #28
docdeek wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hacker News Guidelines: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

This is a significant update on an event of historical impact.

It's not a significant update. When the evergiven got stuck in the suez canel; if a court issued an arrest warrant for the captain that wouldn't have a historical impact.

In a hundred years from now, the leaders of Isreal that people talk about will be the first, the last and the second to last. Similar to how when people talk about the Roman Empire (~500 year span) it's just Cesear.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by Mystery-Machine »

seydor wrote: post #34

I m afraid this fruitless pursuit will distract from the effort to stop the cleansing, which has to be diplomatic and international

So you want to say that the reason for _not_ doing this is: it will distract from the effort to stop the cleansing.

Would that be the same as saying that we shouldn't issue a warrant against a school shooter because it wouldn't stop the shooting? Would it distract from gun laws?

Maybe not the best analogy, but I know that I cannot say for certain whether it will negatively or positively affect the effort. It might positively affect if this makes (especially EU) countries put more pressure on Israel.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by blackhawkC17 »

bhouston wrote: post #39
Qem wrote: post #2

> The Chamber issued warrants of arrest for two individuals, Mr Benjamin Netanyahu and Mr Yoav Gallant, for crimes against humanity and war crimes committed from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024 And things got much worse in the latter part of 2024. Even if the court didn't take into account facts after 20 May 2024, ample evidence already existing by then was already enough to issue the warrants. Whe…

It is incredibly likely another series of warrants will be issued for the next level down of both Israeli and Hamas leadership. It is too bad Lebanon didn't ratify the ICC treaty. They really should have.

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by dankai »

"The Chamber therefore found reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant bear criminal responsibility for the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare."

Whats perhaps interesting to note is that this charge was made for "just" 41 [1] confirmed starvation deaths among a population of 2,141,643 people [2].

Of course every death caused by intentional starvation is a severe crime and must be punished, but in the context of the victim numbers that most past crimes against humanity have had, it sets a relatively low new bar.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip_famine

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by Mystery-Machine »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #40
user982 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What effort?

I think gp, by "cleansing", means ethnic cleansing.

I think gp, by "What effort?", means "Not much effort has been made to stop the ethnic cleansing."

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dang wrote: post #36
28304283409234 wrote: post #24

How is this 'flagged'?

Users flagged it, as is common for the most divisive topics. I've turned the flags off now, in keeping with HN's standard practices: some (but only some) stories with political overlap are allowed, and in the case of a Major Ongoing Topic (MOT) we prefer the stories that contain Significant New Information (SNI). [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange…

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dang wrote: post #36
28304283409234 wrote: post #24

How is this 'flagged'?

Users flagged it, as is common for the most divisive topics. I've turned the flags off now, in keeping with HN's standard practices: some (but only some) stories with political overlap are allowed, and in the case of a Major Ongoing Topic (MOT) we prefer the stories that contain Significant New Information (SNI). [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange…

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