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Re: PHP 8.4
#2I have a question to the PHP-in-production crowd: how long do you wait before migrating to higher version of PHP? Is the first release usually already fine, or is it better to wait for a few months and let someone else catch the early errors?
Re: PHP 8.4
#3I have a question to the PHP-in-production crowd: how long do you wait before migrating to higher version of PHP? Is the first release usually already fine, or is it better to wait for a few months and let someone else catch the early errors?
The last few point releases have been very stable, so normally within a week or so. Obviously this relies on having a pretty good test suite (we run ~8,000 tests in ~60 seconds so not too bad for us).
Re: PHP 8.4
#4I have a question to the PHP-in-production crowd: how long do you wait before migrating to higher version of PHP? Is the first release usually already fine, or is it better to wait for a few months and let someone else catch the early errors?
For PHP 8.3, we upgraded production during the RC phase, but were prepared to revert back to an older one by not relying on the new functionality. Docker makes this easy.
As long as you do not use the new functionality, I'd claim that a new PHP version is no less stable than an older one. And on a contrary you would be missing out on some bugfixes that were deemed too risky to apply to an existing version.
Disclosure: I've got a commit-bit for PHP, so we had in-house expertise to diagnose issues ourselves.
Re: PHP 8.4
#5I have a question to the PHP-in-production crowd: how long do you wait before migrating to higher version of PHP? Is the first release usually already fine, or is it better to wait for a few months and let someone else catch the early errors?
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Re: PHP 8.4
#6These days, I am super torn about what language to use for new web projects.
PHP:
- Easy to deploy: Upload files, done.
- Easy to develop: Reload page, see changes.
- Lots of HTTP tooling built in.
- Fast.
- Great language.
- Great code reuse system: Modules.
- Nice framework: Django.
- Less breaking changes in recent years.Re: PHP 8.4
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Re: PHP 8.4
#8I have a question to the PHP-in-production crowd: how long do you wait before migrating to higher version of PHP? Is the first release usually already fine, or is it better to wait for a few months and let someone else catch the early errors?
Basically I follow Debian Stable releases and migrate all my code to it when a new version is pushed. So so far I'm on 8.2.
It also often fit with the current Laravel version (11).
Re: PHP 8.4
#9I have a question to the PHP-in-production crowd: how long do you wait before migrating to higher version of PHP? Is the first release usually already fine, or is it better to wait for a few months and let someone else catch the early errors?
> how long do you wait before migrating to higher version of PHP?
I still have a PHP5 project that somehow still runs.
Re: PHP 8.4
#10> PHP 8.4 is a major update of the PHP language.
No it’s not: it’s a MINOR update.