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SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Re: SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Post by deprecative »

KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #5
skissane wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the FAA can see the writing on the wall – with Musk being so closely linked to the President-elect, come January 20 there is going to be a lot of pressure on them from the White House if they aren't keeping SpaceX happy. So might as well get ahead of the pressure and make them happy now.

Let's pray he can do the same for general aviation, we sorely need cheaper and better alternatives to century old Cessnas.

As soon as the government develops the technology then gets forced to bring in the oligarchs Musk will be able to take credit for it.

The issue is literally sonic booms over people's homes and businesses.

Re: SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Post by deprecative »

wannacboatmovie wrote: post #4
skissane wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the FAA can see the writing on the wall – with Musk being so closely linked to the President-elect, come January 20 there is going to be a lot of pressure on them from the White House if they aren't keeping SpaceX happy. So might as well get ahead of the pressure and make them happy now.

Because we live in a world where people are more upset if the government is in bed with the space-n-rocket guy than companies engaging in mass surveillance, censorship, and suppression of ideas at their behest.

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Re: SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Post by rkagerer »

skissane wrote: post #3
pkaye wrote: post #2

My guess its because SpaceX is the best chance to complete the moon missions. Its space race time (with China) so time to streamline the regulations.

I think the FAA can see the writing on the wall – with Musk being so closely linked to the President-elect, come January 20 there is going to be a lot of pressure on them from the White House if they aren't keeping SpaceX happy. So might as well get ahead of the pressure and make them happy now.

Near the end of the article it says:

However, it seems unlikely that this document—which has been in the works for more than a year—was unduly influenced by Trump's election. It was prepared by an FAA still under the Biden administration.

Re: SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Post by wannacboatmovie »

avmich wrote: post #8
ericmcer wrote: post #6

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Why do people hate Elon so much? If the government is gonna be in bed with any capitalist I am ok with it being the guy who has repeatedly almost destroyed his personal fortune trying to build rocket ships, electric cars, WiFi satellites, and other push the envelope type stuff. I find it hard to believe he is selfishly motivated because he could have just sat on his billions and accrued more money/power instead of ta…

> Why do people hate Elon so much? Because he hurts people, different people in different ways. There are plenty of examples, e.g. handling the Twitter employees and Twitter users. Elon does a lot of genuinely useful things, but that doesn't mean he doesn't also do bad, selfish things. And even people who aren't directly affected by that see those bad things.

You could say the same about Steve Jobs being a tyrant boss, but despite this he achieved God-like status in tech circles. So did Elon for that matter, before he became a pariah seemingly overnight.

Re: SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Post by nrb »

ilaksh wrote: post #7
ericmcer wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people hate Elon so much? If the government is gonna be in bed with any capitalist I am ok with it being the guy who has repeatedly almost destroyed his personal fortune trying to build rocket ships, electric cars, WiFi satellites, and other push the envelope type stuff. I find it hard to believe he is selfishly motivated because he could have just sat on his billions and accrued more money/power instead of ta…

I think it's 90+% political. The right and left are at war. It's beyond any real civility -- anything short of actual physical violence is fair game. This doesn't leave room for a lot of nuanced views of different political figures.

> It's beyond any real civility -- anything short of actual physical violence is fair game.

I think that's sort of the problem, the person we're discussing is a significant purveyor of that sort of incivility. When someone chooses to play in the mud like that it should not come as a surprise that people respond with distain.

Re: SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Post by avmich »

wannacboatmovie wrote: post #14
avmich wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do people hate Elon so much? Because he hurts people, different people in different ways. There are plenty of examples, e.g. handling the Twitter employees and Twitter users. Elon does a lot of genuinely useful things, but that doesn't mean he doesn't also do bad, selfish things. And even people who aren't directly affected by that see those bad things.

You could say the same about Steve Jobs being a tyrant boss, but despite this he achieved God-like status in tech circles. So did Elon for that matter, before he became a pariah seemingly overnight.

Steve Jobs also had a lot of critics, so I don't see any contradictions here. Many people would disagree about God-like status of Steve Jobs. Same for Elon Musk, he didn't start doing bad things overnight, it was accumulating, until at some point, which was different for different critics, he was worthy of robust criticism.

Re: SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Post by Veserv »

ericmcer wrote: post #6
skissane wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the FAA can see the writing on the wall – with Musk being so closely linked to the President-elect, come January 20 there is going to be a lot of pressure on them from the White House if they aren't keeping SpaceX happy. So might as well get ahead of the pressure and make them happy now.

Why do people hate Elon so much? If the government is gonna be in bed with any capitalist I am ok with it being the guy who has repeatedly almost destroyed his personal fortune trying to build rocket ships, electric cars, WiFi satellites, and other push the envelope type stuff. I find it hard to believe he is selfishly motivated because he could have just sat on his billions and accrued more money/power instead of ta…

He knowingly sells fatally defective products that he misrepresents with a reckless disregard for the truth at the cost of killing his customers and members of the public.

He has resisted all calls to rectify obvious and public fatal design defects since they would harm his profits.

He has a pattern of abusing the legal system and the natural extensions of the “benefit of the doubt” to shield him and his companies from their responsibilities.

For all of this, he has been richly rewarded and made the richest person in the world, yet demands the lowest level of scrutiny. He is a role model and a blueprint showing that the path to riches is lying your ass off and killing your customers for a profit as long as you can spin it as “for the greater good”.

Re: SpaceX just got what it wanted from the FAA for Texas Starship launches

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Post by doublerabbit »

ericmcer wrote: post #6
skissane wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the FAA can see the writing on the wall – with Musk being so closely linked to the President-elect, come January 20 there is going to be a lot of pressure on them from the White House if they aren't keeping SpaceX happy. So might as well get ahead of the pressure and make them happy now.

Why do people hate Elon so much? If the government is gonna be in bed with any capitalist I am ok with it being the guy who has repeatedly almost destroyed his personal fortune trying to build rocket ships, electric cars, WiFi satellites, and other push the envelope type stuff. I find it hard to believe he is selfishly motivated because he could have just sat on his billions and accrued more money/power instead of ta…

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