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Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Bidets can actually reduce water usage overall, depending on how much less toilet paper is used. Then of course there's the benefit of needing fewer materials to produce toilet paper.

It reduces by not needing you take a whole shower to have a less gross asscrack. Although most of the solutions proposed below make me wish I never see a bidet again, at least I should remember to avoid them when traveling to said country.

But you have to take a whole shower to get all the toilet (bidet) water off...

Having just been to India, and the Middle East, they have sprayers next to every toilet. When you go into one of these public stalls, there is often water everywhere. All over the seat, all over the floor. It takes a minute of cleanup just to get to the point where you can sit.

I don't know how people aren't walking out of these with wet clothes. I imagine you take your pants off and hang them and put your sandals in the corner... but I don't think that's for me.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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> I've been thrilled by the rapid adoption of bidets and rarely see a friend's bathroom that doesn't have one You are living in a bubble.

I live in a big city. But I've seen them at friend's houses in lots of places in the US. You can order one on Amazon for like $40 and install it in about 30 minutes.

Yeah dude sorry but I agree with the other guy. You are living in a bubble if you think bidet adoption is high in the US.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Leaving aside health issues to those involved, people who use smartphones whilst there pose health risks to others especially when preparing food. These people are likely to wash their hands afterwards then think nothing of answering their smartphones when preparing food. I'm surprised that health officials don't make a much bigger deal of the fact.

I'm not following. You're saying people who spread fecal matter on their phones don't wash it off their phones? That seems hard to believe, if for no other reason that the smell would be repulsive.

Here's more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siHopHBdW2c

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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I'm not following. You're saying people who spread fecal matter on their phones don't wash it off their phones? That seems hard to believe, if for no other reason that the smell would be repulsive.

Bacteria in the invisible droplets from flushing the toilet alone is plenty enough to contaminate your smartphone, big-time. If say you've the highly contagious and all-to-common Noro virus, and even if you've washed your hands thoroughly and then touch your contaminated smartphone you'll go on to contaminate almost every surface you touch, food and everything else. Why don't people still understand this given that i…

But the bacteria isn't only getting on your phone. It's getting on your clothes and skin and other parts of you that you also come into contact with.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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I'm not following. You're saying people who spread fecal matter on their phones don't wash it off their phones? That seems hard to believe, if for no other reason that the smell would be repulsive.

Do you believe that people should only wash their hands after using the bathroom if there are visibly feces on the hands?

I know that comment is provocation and I should ignore it, but I'll take the opportunity to say that if people exercised a little more hygiene and washed their hands more frequently—especially when leaving the bathroom whether they've feces on them or not—then we'd have considerably fewer cases of gastroenteritis and other communicable diseases in the community. You don't have to believe me, there are thousands of authoritative references on the net and elsewhere that attest to that.

I say that not as an obsessive hand-washer or an anti-germ-freak like Howard Hughes but because it's just commonsense. It also comes from being taught as a child both by my parents and at school to wash my hands before eating food and to be hygienic around food preparation such as washing fruit before eating it. That early training has meant that if say I were to sit at the dinner table without washing my hands I'd have a feeling of being dirty and have the urge to wash them.

I'm not alone, many others have similar a experience for the same reason. That said, I suspect the percentage ought to be much higher than it actually is (simple observation tells me that).

Again, I'm careful but not obsessive about hygiene and I like most others have occasional minor lapses such as eating an apple or picking strawberries from a punnet without first washing them. Nevertheless, I'm aware of the fact and feel somewhat guilty for not having done so.

Similarly, I'm always aware of the many almost futile practices people adopt in the name of hygiene. For example, the commonplace and token-like habit of shop assistants with disposable gloves on preparing say bread rolls and then handling money especially so notes (which are particularly dirty and germ-laden) and not changing to a new pair before the next customer (the same can be said about them handling their smartphones at the same time).

Long gone are coins with high silver content that were in part self-cleansing (Ag has strong antimicrobial properties).

BTW, if one takes the effort to wipe one's phone with a tissue with a few drops of ethanol (or rubbing alcohol—isopropanol for those in the US) on it then it serves a dual purpose, greasy fingerprints are removed and one's screen is clean—and the alcohol kills most of the microbes.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Bacteria in the invisible droplets from flushing the toilet alone is plenty enough to contaminate your smartphone, big-time. If say you've the highly contagious and all-to-common Noro virus, and even if you've washed your hands thoroughly and then touch your contaminated smartphone you'll go on to contaminate almost every surface you touch, food and everything else. Why don't people still understand this given that i…

But the bacteria isn't only getting on your phone. It's getting on your clothes and skin and other parts of you that you also come into contact with.

Check the YouTube video and my longer comment below.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Who is "they"?

In this case, doctors. In a more general sense, those people who feel they are smarter than you and should control your life.

Very true, but then they are only trying to protect people like me from others who act out of self-interest and without consideration for others.

That's the whole rationale behind public health and hygiene policies (until recently that was taken for granted).

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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post #72

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In this case, doctors. In a more general sense, those people who feel they are smarter than you and should control your life.

Very true, but then they are only trying to protect people like me from others who act out of self-interest and without consideration for others. That's the whole rationale behind public health and hygiene policies (until recently that was taken for granted).

> (until recently that was taken for granted).

I wonder why that attitude changed…oh yeah, I remember now…it’s when our public health authorities started making decisions based on political tribalism instead of trying to actually protect people in the one moment in modern times when they they should have shined for us.

You don’t get to fail that bigly and retain your reputation.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Do you believe that people should only wash their hands after using the bathroom if there are visibly feces on the hands?

I know that comment is provocation and I should ignore it, but I'll take the opportunity to say that if people exercised a little more hygiene and washed their hands more frequently—especially when leaving the bathroom whether they've feces on them or not—then we'd have considerably fewer cases of gastroenteritis and other communicable diseases in the community. You don't have to believe me, there are thousands of au…

IMO westerners are becoming much dirtier and more careless in this regard, and in general with the careless spreading of disease. The exceptions just point out the rule that people constantly go places sick. Last Fall my family fell ill almost every time we went to church.
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