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Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by ponector »

kabes wrote: post #60

Article resonates with me. I'm Belgian and moved to work in SF in 2016. I really hated it and it took me a long time to admit this, because it felt like failure. I moved back 2 years later and the upside is that I now appreciate Belgium, my friends and family here way more. Before I was just focused on moving away to what I thought was a better place.

Belgium is a nice rich country. Almost no-one there is asking question "Why you don't move abroad?". That is the question to the people in poor countries, where one can move to the rich country and feel massive improvement in quality of life.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by ponector »

pluc wrote: post #5

Because visas. You can't actually move anywhere (well, at least in most of Europe) without a job to sponsor you.

But anyway you need a work to sustain your life. If you have enough money to not work - visa is not an issue then, just pay for it.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by DanielHB »

cassianoleal wrote: post #56
DanielHB wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have a lot of things in common with the person in the article, as a Brazilian living and working in Sweden I can relate a lot to the things he is saying. However I feel the main thing that made me move away from Brazil was not status, income or "success". It was the realization that no matter how "successful" I was my life was still going to suck. Working in IT in Brazil means living in São Paulo and that is l…

> Working in IT in Brazil means living in São Paulo It absolutely does not. Porto Alegre and Recife are 2 large IT centres where there's plenty of good jobs from large corporations to small startups. Florianópolis also had small but workable one though I don't know how it's evolved in more recent years. Salaries are certainly better in São Paulo but so is the cost of living, and for many the quality of life can be a…

Well I am from São Paulo state, I worked a few years in Campinas but I refused to move to São Paulo city. But even in Campinas (which is a somewhat decent tech center) it still was hard to find good jobs.

From my point of view moving from São Paulo state to one of those other Brazilian tech centers is not that big of a leap to just move to another country.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by DanielHB »

alpaccount wrote: post #55
DanielHB wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have a lot of things in common with the person in the article, as a Brazilian living and working in Sweden I can relate a lot to the things he is saying. However I feel the main thing that made me move away from Brazil was not status, income or "success". It was the realization that no matter how "successful" I was my life was still going to suck. Working in IT in Brazil means living in São Paulo and that is l…

I recently got an offer to work in Sao Paulo, 3 days from home, 2 in office. FAANG-like company. Can't seem to make myself accept, the city is almost Gotham nowadays. I live in the UK now. Incredibly safe city in the countryside. Just can't imagine myself looking over my shoulder all the time, or wanting that. Even though I'd be "well off", by our standards, which frankly are not that high. Brazil, without being actu…

I can see myself moving back to Brazil at some point, but I will never live in São Paulo or one of its suburb cities.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by Parae »

hshshshshsh wrote: post #20
Parae wrote: post #16

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Let me guess, you're from EU or USA ? Nationalism is not what's stopping most africans to move abroad. I'm lucky I was born in France so I don't have to bother with visa refusal like all my cousins in Algeria.

I am from India.

Since 2021 [1] it's easier to come to France as an Indian, that it is as an Algerian, or even worse, as a Nigerian or Palestinian.

[1] https://www.immigration.interieur.gouv.fr/Europe-et-Internat...

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by eesmith »

thatloststudent wrote: post #25
lancebeet wrote: post #7

>Though secretly, it was to give hope to the students who were defeated by the education system and told “You can’t study Computer Science, because you didn’t know Carbon has a radioactive isotope.” Forgive me if I'm being elitist here, but this seems like a strange example of outrageous admission requirements. I would have thought knowing about radiocarbon dating (which I'm assuming this is a reference to) is common…

I interpreted it as knowing the basics of nuclear physics in order to do a CS Bachelor's degree, which is what the entrance exam for these colleges ask.

Like lancebeet, I learned there are radioactive isotopes of carbon as part of learning about carbon dating while in high school.

I think there's a big step from that knowledge to say that means I know the basics of nuclear physics. If anything, it's a better test for the basics of archaeological dating.

Or, as I learned recently, the 12C/13C/14C ratios are used to help determine the source for the increase in atmospheric CO2, since fossil fuels have essentially no 14C. (TIL it's the "Suess effect", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suess_effect ). So it can also be a test for how well one understands the evidence behind the causes for global warming (while also making carbon dating trickier - https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1504467112 ).

I also know that nuclear power plants split the uranium atom to generate power, as do atomic bombs. I also know that radioactive materials are used in smoke detectors and as power sources for some space probes, that bananas are radioactive, and that radon is a radioactive gas that can build up in houses and cause cancer.

That still doesn't mean I know the basics of nuclear physics, which starts with how the nucleus contains protons and neutrons, and is incredibly tiny compared to the nominal size of the atom.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by anal_reactor »

kabes wrote: post #60

Article resonates with me. I'm Belgian and moved to work in SF in 2016. I really hated it and it took me a long time to admit this, because it felt like failure. I moved back 2 years later and the upside is that I now appreciate Belgium, my friends and family here way more. Before I was just focused on moving away to what I thought was a better place.

I live in the Netherlands, so I'm really holding myself back not to make a joke about Belgium being bad.

I recognize the text author's struggles. I live in the shit area, and when my parents were visiting, they saw drug addicts. I personally witnessed a shooting once. I have almost no friends. Despite having learnt the language to B2 level, I have zero connection with local culture. But you know what? In my home country nobody's waiting for me either. I know this sounds cheesy, but I think that in some way I'm just different from most other people, and no matter where I go, I'll always feel lonely and disconnected. This sucks, but the flipside is that I can follow the money and comfort of life without feeling like I'm sacrificing anything.

I'd love to temporarily move to the US, but definitely not permanently. I have noticed that almost all people I am on friendly terms with have a story "I grew up poor but now I'm rich", and obviously, citizens of the world's richest country won't be a good match here.

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