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Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by Izkata »

ikr678 wrote: post #73
standardUser wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This must be part of the problem. People complain about them here (in the US) all the time. I'm wondering if we're not producing crappy dual flush toilets in this country compared to overseas where they've presumably be manufacturing them for a generation or so.

Dual flush doesnt work as well with US sized bowls. You need the entire toilet fitting to be designed for it, not just retrofit the cistern.

This was the same problem low-flow had in the 90s or early 2000s (so common it even made a full episode of King of the Hill), they didn't redesign the bowls very well to handle it.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by m463 »

standardUser wrote: post #26

On the topic of toilets, is there an explanation for the continued lack of dual flush toilets in the US? It's been common in Europe for as long as I can remember and now Latin America seems to have lapped us. Separately, but still related, I've been thrilled by the rapid adoption of bidets and rarely see a friend's bathroom that doesn't have one. What are the chances we start to get bidets in hotels and restaurants?…

I expect people don't replace their toilet unless it fails. Alternatively some code or law has to to come into play to force replacement.

Also, a lot of toilets now look normal but are dual-flush - you just have to hold the handle for a longer flush.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by hilbert42 »

maroonblazer wrote: post #60
hilbert42 wrote: post #11

Leaving aside health issues to those involved, people who use smartphones whilst there pose health risks to others especially when preparing food. These people are likely to wash their hands afterwards then think nothing of answering their smartphones when preparing food. I'm surprised that health officials don't make a much bigger deal of the fact.

I'm not following. You're saying people who spread fecal matter on their phones don't wash it off their phones? That seems hard to believe, if for no other reason that the smell would be repulsive.

Bacteria in the invisible droplets from flushing the toilet alone is plenty enough to contaminate your smartphone, big-time.

If say you've the highly contagious and all-to-common Noro virus, and even if you've washed your hands thoroughly and then touch your contaminated smartphone you'll go on to contaminate almost every surface you touch, food and everything else.

Why don't people still understand this given that it's had such huge airing in recent years (as it's such a significant problem on cruise ships)?

That people still don't is the reason why medical and health authorities should be much more proactive in this area.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by hilbert42 »

eth0up wrote: post #33
hilbert42 wrote: post #11

Leaving aside health issues to those involved, people who use smartphones whilst there pose health risks to others especially when preparing food. These people are likely to wash their hands afterwards then think nothing of answering their smartphones when preparing food. I'm surprised that health officials don't make a much bigger deal of the fact.

You just kicked at least one elephant in the room, smack in the nads. I sincerely think this is an underestimated issue. It reminds me of the Jewish family afflicted with neurocysticercosis - a disease normally precluded from those not partaking in infected porcine products, but rather normal if the folks handling the food do while neglecting hygiene. I presume grooming, particularly what remains under the fingernail…

Exactly!

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

#105

Post by throwaway743 »

discardedrefuse wrote: post #4
throwaway743 wrote: post #2

Worth it. That's sacred ritual time right there.

About 25 (maybe 30) years ago I had a family member who required hemorrhoid surgery because they used to read novels on the toilet. It was a long and painful road for them. Do not recommend.

Eh had em. Still worth it. That's what banding is for.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by OutOfHere »

FooBarBizBazz wrote: post #93
OutOfHere wrote: post #92

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What problem does the squat toilet have? We pooped in the squat position from before we were humans.

Not enough separation between the hole and the feet. You never know what you're stepping in.

I am sorry but that is not making sense for me. I have used squat toilets without ever having any such issue.

In contrast, with Western toilets, I always have the issue of the dick touching the toilet surface, seriously risking chronic urinary tract infections, spreading all the way from the urethra to the kidneys. This is not just theoretical; it actually happens, chronically so, and only with the Western toilet.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by al_borland »

Izkata wrote: post #99
al_borland wrote: post #96

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I've seen some dual flush toilets in the US, though rare. My dad has one, and I don't think he went out of his way. My assumption is that the lack of awareness would be part of the reason for public toilets to not use them. It's often not clear which button to use, so people just push one at random. We have a hard enough time getting people to flush at all, so adding decisions into the mix doesn't great. In men's bat…

> My assumption is that the lack of awareness would be part of the reason for public toilets to not use them. It's often not clear which button to use Instead of having two buttons, there are designs that do the smaller flush by lifting the handle instead of pushing it down. That way people who don't know about it always get a full flush and the people that do can use the smaller one.

How would anyone ever know about the pull up action? If push down always works, and pull up sometimes works, wouldn't everyone just push down?

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by ThousndBeerMike »

OutOfHere wrote: post #39
scrapcode wrote: post #8

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You climb up on it or what?

Yes, do it. It's doable if you're not a very large person. Just position yourself accurately so the output goes in the exit, not in front of it or behind it. Or if you're in Asia, just get an Asian style squat toilet.

Sounds like splash central. Gross.

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by conductr »

soco wrote: post #100
conductr wrote: post #95

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I don’t know if they refuse flushing but they don’t want them in their house is what I’ve found out. I put them in our house without consulting my wife and apparently everyone we’ve discussed it with is of the opinion of “eww gross, why would you do that”. It’s usually a funny story to tell if we get asked about our house and building process, almost without fail a man will see it as no big deal “efficiency good” and…

Wait wait, you mean they despise flushing in general? Is every US house fitted with flush triggers? Or how else can you flush, if no button? You mean maybe those women are simply fine with the smell? You only managed to confuse me more :)

Most toilets here have a lever. And no, flushing isn’t despised you keep jumping to weird conclusions

Re: Don't sit on the toilet for more than 10 minutes, doctors warn

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Post by OutOfHere »

ThousndBeerMike wrote: post #108
OutOfHere wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, do it. It's doable if you're not a very large person. Just position yourself accurately so the output goes in the exit, not in front of it or behind it. Or if you're in Asia, just get an Asian style squat toilet.

Sounds like splash central. Gross.

In a Western toilet with water in it, the splash is always there, whether you're sitting or squatting.

The only time there isn't any splash is in a proper Asian squat toilet, as it doesn't hold water. The output can be drained away as often as needed, again with no splash.

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