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Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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Is this an obvious reference? Do people often know the text of this, or of bits of it?

Fairly obvious for those who've spent enough time online, I'd say most people would only recognize that first sentence. The Unabomber Manifesto has become something of a copypasta

In my four decades or so, I've never seen that.

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Not at all. It’s good that law enforcement have the tools to deal with serious threats. You’re just throwing around a fear word. The big guns are hidden from sight anyway, and only brought out when need be. We don’t need any Oct 7th type attacks happening on home soil.

Or 1948-onwards-style genocides. One Palestinian child has been killed every 2 days since Oct 7th by the way.

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post #362

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Don’t “good faith” me with a reference that you claim supports your assertion but in actuality does not. You made an assertion and can defend it or abandon it. If evidence for your claim was as plentiful as you claim, you would just add another link. You didn’t.

> If evidence for your claim was as plentiful as you claim, you would just add another link. I gave examples of 3 southern states (and a link to one, detailing how the law enforcement was devolved to antebellum mores in Louisiana)

Did you post these under a different username? I see no evidence here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sangnoir

Again, if evidence was as plentiful as you claim, a person would add a link instead of typing about examples and links elsewhere.

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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post #248

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Yeah wtf is wrong with cops being on edge when they think they're responding to a mass shooting. How dare they! Future headline: Police ignore mass shooting because they thought it was a prank

'there's no way to stop this' says the government of the only country where this happens regularly. source: the onion [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27No_Way_to_Prevent_This,%27_...

What do you propose? Have you wondered why police here act as they do? Could it be all of the guns, gangs, mass shootings, and crime? We ain't like Europe in this regard.

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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I never said the police's problems were on display with this case. In fact i think the case is largely meaningless to the topic. the threat of swatting is going to remain until the police can be brought under some kind of democratic control.

I don't know, you brought it up. I'm asking: in this case, what do you want them held accountable for?

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Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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It seems like he was a child when he made most of these calls. Regardless, this is unlikely to be much of a deterrent. The police need to be held accountable at some point.

The police didn't hurt anybody in this case, despite this person's attempt to make them do so. What are you holding them accountable for?

In criminal law, attempted crime is treated the same as successful completions. That’s because we don’t want to encourage people to make attempts: many such attempts could be successful.

Imagine a world in which someone is trying to murder you or your children. You know who they are, and you even have incontrovertible evidence they are doing it. Yet they get off scot-free every time because their bullets missed the mark.

(This is covered in the mandatory first-year criminal law course in law school, BTW.)

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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Couldn’t this fellow been identified after ten, rather than 200+?

Tor, VPNs, and other solutions work, and are simple enough for a motivated 17 year old to use.

Plus calls all over the country require national level investigation, not local police efforts. And that's what happened: the FBI had to step in.

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post #46

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9/11 policy panic, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan producing surplus equipment, 400 million privately owned firearms in the US, US history of police standoffs, DoD investment in military PR including Navy Seals worship, and much more have ALL contributed to the Swatting phenomenon. I don’t think we could have intentionally created an incentive structure for swatting more if we had tried. And it’s going to continue b…

None of what you mentioned backs up the idea that swatting used to exist in the past as it does now.

I didn't do a great job segueing from the parent. I agree with the parent, and my comment expands on why its happening now when it wasn't happening, at least to the same degree, in the past.

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post #394

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> If evidence for your claim was as plentiful as you claim, you would just add another link. I gave examples of 3 southern states (and a link to one, detailing how the law enforcement was devolved to antebellum mores in Louisiana)

Did you post these under a different username? I see no evidence here: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sangnoir Again, if evidence was as plentiful as you claim, a person would add a link instead of typing about examples and links elsewhere.

What sort of falsifiable evidence would be sufficient to convince you? That specific named individuals who were on slave patrols later became sheriffs?
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