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That stat includes all shootings, not just murders

I think many would argue that all deaths by shootings are murder - even if it’s in self defense, and perhaps especially if society grants more power, in the form of immunity, to one ‘side’. I didn’t want to open that can of worms. Even the inclusive stat I cited is small enough to support the point I wanted to make.

Why?

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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Not at all. It’s good that law enforcement have the tools to deal with serious threats. You’re just throwing around a fear word. The big guns are hidden from sight anyway, and only brought out when need be. We don’t need any Oct 7th type attacks happening on home soil.

If they can be summoned by just placing an anonymous phone call with an unverified claim, that might be a problem though.

What's the alternative? Waiting for New York Times to verify a home invasion has indeed taken place before sending over cops?

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> The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Do you mean for the US, rather than the human race? Some of us live in countries where the only weapons most cops carry are truncheons and tasers.

Whats bad for the US is bad for the rest of the world. America uses its outsized influence to impact the entire world

Plenty of countries are benefiting from U.S. mistakes and ‘badness’…

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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From the Information he pled to: ALAN W. FILION, a/k/a "Nazgul Swattings," a/k/a "Torswats V3," a/k/a "Third Reich of Kiwiswats," a/k/a "The Table Swats," a/k/a "Angmar," and a/k/a "Torswats" Seems like a fun guy. It looks like most of this story was covered a year ago: https://www.wired.com/story/alan-filion-torswats-swatting-ar...

https://archive.is/FozW8

This is the older article. Have this one?

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> For the slave patrol point, I would appreciate a single example of this phenomenon Potter, Gary "The History of Policing in the United States"[1] references Platt, Tony, "Crime and Punishment in the United States: Immediate and Long-Term Reforms from a Marxist Perspective, Crime and Social Justice 18" 1. https://www.academia.edu/30504361/The_History_of_Policing_in...

Marxist references are valid?

I suppose if you dismiss an article out of hand due to the ideology of the author without even seeing what historical facts they claim or their references, they might not be valuable to you.

Should progressive academics declare all CATO papers invalid because they are ideologically misaligned with the institute?

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> They evolved out of warehouse guards and slave patrols. This is not accurate. The timeframe is not wrong; it is true that the concept of the modern police, at least in the US, was largely based on the Peelian model created in London in the 1820s. But saying it evolved from "warehouse guards and slave patrols" is ahistorical. Most modern police forces modeled after London's Metropolitan Police replaced night watch s…

> the concept of the modern police, at least in the US, was largely based on the Peelian model created in London in the 1820s. There are some pretty big differences between the UK policing model and the one used in the US. The UK model was set up against the backdrop of the Napoleonic Wars (the French police's role included monitoring dissent, suppressing political opposition [1] and even censoring books) and the Pet…

The previous comments weren't specific to America. This is a global website.

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The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

> The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Do you mean for the US, rather than the human race? Some of us live in countries where the only weapons most cops carry are truncheons and tasers.

This is at best naive, and reads pretty smug and self-satisfied. You likely still have a military, and policing isn't really about the weapons a cop carries. Ironically less deadly weapons can encourage more liberal use, so maybe you can be proud of your higher rate of non-lethal beatings?

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

> The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Do you mean for the US, rather than the human race? Some of us live in countries where the only weapons most cops carry are truncheons and tasers.

Its not just the weapons. In parts of Europe you can get arrested for posting the wrong kind of meme online.

As a side note, when trying to research this you'll see weird double speak fact checks like below:

> Fact Check: 11-year-old arrested on suspicion of violent disorder after riots, not ‘mean tweets’

> Sending grossly offensive, obscene, indecent, or menacing messages on public electronic communication networks is a criminal offence in Britain under Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003

> Misleading. An 11-year-old was arrested on suspicion of violent disorder, not for social media posts, during a swathe of arrests by British police targeting those involved in rioting.

But then the authors don't write what 'violent disorder' is.

Then they try to further confuse the matter by talking about a completely unrealted 11 year old boy that was arrested for suspicion of arson

> The spokesperson said the 11-year-old, one of five juveniles arrested on suspicion of violent disorder by the force on Aug. 28 in relation to the riots, was later bailed.

> Cleveland Police arrested another 11-year-old on suspicion of arson after a police vehicle was set alight in Hartlepool on July 31, according to the spokesperson and an Aug. 1 statement, opens new tab . The child was also released on bail, the spokesperson said.

And this isn't some weird online political rag, it's Reuters. It's all very strange.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/11-year-old-arrested-susp...

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Are you willing to understand the argument? What does militarization mean? Because I’ve seen no evidence of police responding to a crime scene with an Apache helicopter or a howitzer. It’s remarkable that completely obviously false claims of militarization are accepted here. As for your link: the claim made by the “study” is false since it is ignoring virtually every obvious confounding factor to claim that the numbe…

You seeing no evidence of it firsthand != A refutation. It's a globally decried phenomenon unique to the American Police Forces. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-9-11-helped-to-milita... https://apbweb.com/2023/10/the-use-of-military-assets-by-u-s... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/why-are-some-u... The driving force behind it is this LESO; established to facilitate the "1033 Program", which trans…

This gives this 2020 post about Queensryche's "Empire" a different perspective.

https://livinglifefearless.co/2020/features/queensryches-emp...

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