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Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by the4anoni »

Man, This looks really awesome! However I have some questions. 1. Do you plan CPU overclocking of your gaming rigs? I'm asking because on so many PCs it doesn't seem realistic, so why did you go with 13600KF CPU instead of cheaper 13500/13600 non-K CPU? Also, If you don't plan overclocking didn't you through about going with cheaper B760 Motherboard + 10Gbit/s NIC? 2. Why did you choosed so slow memory? These i5 can benefit a lot in gaming from fast memory such as 7200MT/s+. 6000MT/s CL30 would probably be at same price as your kit, while providing nice performance boost in games. 3. How does Key rollover work for you on K120? Can you use Shift + W + 1 key combo for example? Just asking, because some people on Internet say such combo won't work on later batches of K120.

In this setup what I really appreciate is that you didn't go with Virtualized PCs route (that causes a lot of problems with modern video games) and so much amemities for your cat :)

Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by WorldMaker »

zamalek wrote: post #210
Multiplayer wrote: post #49

As the former proprietor of LanParty.com (which I mistakenly included in a sale to IGN) I must salute you. The absolute genius of the provided lan equipment and particularly the management thereof is an inspiration. I think the lack of any standing offerings of variations of Quake is a glaring mistake but easily rectified. :) It's really heartening to see lan gaming continued and offered in such a way that the amount…

I remember our biggest issue being IP addresses. We had no router, or expertise, so we were at the whims of automatic addresses (254.x... as far as I recall?). Good times.

I remember the parts of the 90s where the most reliable LAN party connections for the games we were playing were IPX/SPX or worse, as I recall, and they didn't really have automatic addresses at all, so trial and error configuration tweaking in DOS config files, DOS Game UIs, the Windows 3.11 UIs, and then Windows 95 UIs was way too much of the process.

It is amazing to think how much IPv4 and IPv6 "just work" in comparison.

Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by cryptozeus »

First of all, great article. I loved how you added all images with captions right upfront without adding boring descriptions that no one would read. At the end you added all the faqs, i loved this format l. Also i loved lan parties in early 2000. I used to run acm chapter at my college andwe used to have lan parties in college.

Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by kentonv »

WorldMaker wrote: post #352
zamalek wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember our biggest issue being IP addresses. We had no router, or expertise, so we were at the whims of automatic addresses (254.x... as far as I recall?). Good times.

I remember the parts of the 90s where the most reliable LAN party connections for the games we were playing were IPX/SPX or worse, as I recall, and they didn't really have automatic addresses at all, so trial and error configuration tweaking in DOS config files, DOS Game UIs, the Windows 3.11 UIs, and then Windows 95 UIs was way too much of the process. It is amazing to think how much IPv4 and IPv6 "just work" in com…

Oddly enough, my memory of IPX/SPX was that it "just worked" by default whereas when we switched to IP we started having to manually configure IP addresses and make sure no one chose the same address.

That said my first LAN party was 1996 and we were running Windows 95 by that point, which probably helped.

Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by kentonv »

the4anoni wrote: post #351

Man, This looks really awesome! However I have some questions. 1. Do you plan CPU overclocking of your gaming rigs? I'm asking because on so many PCs it doesn't seem realistic, so why did you go with 13600KF CPU instead of cheaper 13500/13600 non-K CPU? Also, If you don't plan overclocking didn't you through about going with cheaper B760 Motherboard + 10Gbit/s NIC? 2. Why did you choosed so slow memory? These i5 can…

I don't recall what the price difference between K and non-K was at the time. I'm not a big fan of overclocking but I think the price difference must have been negligible. Or it might have been that the only "F" options (no-integrated-GPU) available at the time were also "K". Obviously I did not want an integrated GPU.

We did have a lot of fun when building the computers seeing how many "biscuits" each one reported. I guess this is some sort of measure of overclockability provided by Gigabyte motherboards, but we pretended it was a direct measure of how well the person assembling the computer did and congratulated or made fun of each other depending on the results.

The motherboard I got was literally the cheapest board that had a 10G NIC at the time. In retrospect maybe I should have bought separate 10G NICs.

Memory timing is a world I haven't gotten deeply into. I didn't spend a lot of time researching the RAM.

Key rollover hasn't been an issue. I have been using these cheap keyboards for gaming for a long time (had them in the old house too) and I simply have never had the experience of it not registering a keystroke due to too many keys being pressed. I'm pretty sure I commonly am holding shift and W and also press another key... though then again, I do tend to map commonly-used actions to mouse buttons...

Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by Tabular-Iceberg »

redman25 wrote: post #115
latentcall wrote: post #94

Younger me thinks this is really awesome. This was my DREAM during Halo 2 years. Kudos. The design, the hardware, the room itself. The house is beautiful. The pictures and write ups are fantastic. Feel free to ignore the next part of my comment: Current me with lived experiences and knowledge of the world thinks it’s a little disgusting. I don’t think it’s your fault, or you’re intending to do that. I don’t think YOU…

Normally, I’d be equally upset with excess but the fact that this is somewhat of a community building thing is actually refreshing to see from the wealthy (even if by community, it is just friends). It’s mild in comparison to the ultra rich. Jeff bezos, Larry Ellison, and Elon musk have more wealth than half of America. That fact is what we should truly be upset about. In comparison this is a drop on the ocean.

Should we really be upset about that in particular?

It's not at all obvious to me that the more wealth they have on the top end the worse off we are at the bottom end.

Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by stemlord »

alchemist1e9 wrote: post #320
compiler-devel wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by “isn’t earned income” ?

The anti-capitalists have this crazy idea that investment income isn’t “earned” in the same way that labor income is. Of course that’s absurdly anti-capitalist and completely ignores the point of capitalism and the function of risk taking incentivized by potential rewards. Failing to make a coherent argument against active investment income, for instance entrepreneurs, they will then revert to criticism of passive in…

I thought "earned income" was an actual accounting term (to define a type of taxable income as opposed to passive income):

https://itap1.for.irs.gov/owda/0/resource/Commentary_Files_R...

" Earned income is money received as payment for work, including wages, salaries, bonuses, commissions, tips, and net earnings from self-employment. For tax purposes, it can also include long-term disability payments, union strike benefits, and, in some cases, payments from certain deferred retirement compensation arrangements.

Income such as investment profits and Social Security payments is considered unearned income, also known as passive income."

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/earnedincome.asp

Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by stemlord »

simonhorlick wrote: post #341
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The anti-capitalists have this crazy idea that investment income isn’t “earned” in the same way that labor income is. Of course that’s absurdly anti-capitalist and completely ignores the point of capitalism and the function of risk taking incentivized by potential rewards. Failing to make a coherent argument against active investment income, for instance entrepreneurs, they will then revert to criticism of passive in…

It's motivated by the ideology of wanting a meritocracy - the idea that if you work hard you can reap rewards. Having some people in society that can sit at home and watch the S&P increase while some have to work 50-hour weeks to make ends meet is seen as problematic.

It wasn't a judgement remark, "earned income" is what you call that which is not passive income

Re: Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties

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Post by Suppafly »

crooked-v wrote: post #116
cluckindan wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The global housing crisis is the result of international organised crime owning or operating most of the large construction conglomerates, using real estate as a fiat currency to wash the proceeds from all their illicit business, and (org crime infested) private equity companies cashing in on the former situation, pumping assets by buying up available real estate just to make it unavailable. CRIME is the real rea…

> using real estate as a fiat currency Even if we take your premise as a given, the entire reason real estate is so valuable is that there isn't enough housing in the first place. Real estate is, by its nature, a bad investment; it's only the scarcity of it that makes the value continue to go up exponentially. > buying up available real estate just to make it unavailable There isn't actually any available housing in…

>Real estate is, by its nature, a bad investment; it's only the scarcity of it that makes the value continue to go up exponentially.

It's very nature is it's scarcity though. Land is the one thing they don't make more of.

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