Couldn’t this fellow been identified after ten, rather than 200+?
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Ban mechanical printing presses too then.
The printing press predates the 1st Amendment
Not the fully automatic machine presses. The founding fathers had printing presses that had to be hand loaded one page at a time. Clearly, they had no ability to conceive of more advanced technology than that.
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I don't pay nearly enough attention or care about police quality outcomes to comment on whether trends have been a disaster, but critiques of militarization are definitely not something that arose out of BLM. A huge amount was coming from Radley Balko and reason.com over 15 years ago. It was a major libertarian talking point for a long time. As soon as Iraq surplus donation programs started giving free MRAPs and full…
> It was a major libertarian talking point for a long time.
It’s amazing how the main voices of the libertarian right have changed over the last 25 years.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Wichita_swatting?wprov=sf...
I should have been more clear about the question. I am wondering how many of the calls made by THIS GUY resulted in actual swat deployments, how many got someone shot or killed, etc. That gives a scale of the severity of the crime. Like if you fatally shoot someone, that is murder. If you shoot them and they survive, or if you shoot and miss, that's attempted murder and you tend to get a lighter sentence than if you…
Even if nobody died, it depends how you want to classify intentionally swatting someone. 50 counts of attempted murder? 50 counts of inciting violence? 50 counts of assault?
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
The 2nd Amendment doesn't give you the right to brandish at cops (or anyone else, outside of limited situations like self defense)
GP merely said “armed”, not “brandishing”.
That feels like a weird category to use IMO. People who brandish are armed but not all armed people are brandishing.
More to the point, if you went to your local PDs website and watched body cam from the last 10 shootings, how many do you think would be involve law abiding gun owners with CCWs using guns in a way consistent with the 2nd Amendment vs people brandishing or using their guns in a criminal and/or dangerous way?
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To be ever so slightly sympathetic to American cops, unlike just about anywhere else in the developed world, it is plausible that the person behind the door is armed with anything up to an automatic rifle, and any random person they stop may be carrying a concealed firearm. Given that, if I was busting down doors in the US, I’d want to be armed to the teeth, equipped with the best body armour money can buy, and would…
Simple solution: only allow weapons that existed during the creation of the Second Amendment.
That's actually a bad solution. Weapons weren't much less brutal then, mostly just less precise. You'd have people accidentally shooting bystanders in armed conflicts.
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How many police officers do you know? Have you been on a ride along or attempted to understand their job? Swatting victimizes the police as well, they’re responding to a potential hostage situation and do not have the benefit of hindsight. I guarantee these officers are horrified that the man was innocent and frustrated that they were put in this situation. I encourage everyone who is adamantly “ACAB” to go on a ride…
Do you know why ACAB? Is not because they are rude, it's not cause they mean. It's because they participate in a societal role that requires them to do bastardly things. They have to enforce unjust laws and unjust outcomes, and statistically do so more heavily across minority populations. The institution requires them to be bastards, ACAB is a statement about the institution of police and the people who elect to join…
> It's because they participate in a societal role that requires them to do bastardly things. They have to enforce unjust laws and unjust outcomes
The problems with American policing aren't merely that the cops have to enforce the law.
It's the qualified immunity, the get-out-of-jail-free cards for their buddies, and the dog shootings.
If the police never shot the wrong guy, always replaced your door after breaking it down, and were polite and apologetic when a mistake was made - people in this thread wouldn't be equating swatting with attempted murder.
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#288The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
How is this even related to militarization? The perp is abusing emergency response systems with a total lack of empathy for the damage it did to the victim and the department.
The separation of empathy from an 18 year old online kid from his peers is the true tragedy here.
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#289The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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>That concept is from the mid 1800s. They evolved out of warehouse guards and slave patrols.
Isn't this just guilt by association? Whether police are bad or not should be judged on its merits, not what its history is. The Autobahn and VW was built by Nazi Germany, but it'd be absurd to bring that factoid up when discussing road transport or the German car industry.
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For the warehouse guards, to summarize, you're saying that night watchmen and city watchmen were de facto warehouse guards before the formation of professional police forces? That seems a far cry from "evolved out of warehouse guards". Police still put resources into protecting property, but this does not make them "warehouse guards" any more than resources put on petty crime make them "cutpurse chasers" unless you'r…
> For the slave patrol point, I would appreciate a single example of this phenomenon Potter, Gary "The History of Policing in the United States"[1] references Platt, Tony, "Crime and Punishment in the United States: Immediate and Long-Term Reforms from a Marxist Perspective, Crime and Social Justice 18" 1. https://www.academia.edu/30504361/The_History_of_Policing_in...
Marxist references are valid?