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Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia with Long-Range U.S. Missiles

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Re: Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia with Long-Range U.S. Missiles

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Post by ganeshkrishnan »

exe34 wrote: post #80
ganeshkrishnan wrote: post #71

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You are peeing against the wind by talking logic here. I witnessed the same rabid propaganda by Americans for Iraq war and same rabid propaganda for Syrian war, for Libyan war, for Afghanistan... They don't care. It's not their lives or their family or their land

The Ukrainians want their land and their people back. As long as they're willing to fight, I'll support them. The day they decide to give up and let the genocidal Russians sweep across their country, it'll be their decision.

Genocidal Russians? Russia hosts the largest Ukrainian refugee population.

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Post by TiredOfLife »

monetus wrote: post #20

The atacms strikes will help in kursk, but less so in the east imo. Maybe this will mess up those logistics as well, but it seems too little too late. Just politically, It isn't parity to ten thousand soldiers and 60% of their shells being North Korean. North Korea is at war in Europe, and this is not a commensurate response. Lifting the restrictions now after Russia's logistics have already retreated also took the b…

10000 soldiers is about a weeks worth of russian casualities

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Post by mopsi »

protomolecule wrote: post #100
Gud wrote: post #96

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Finland is armed to the teeth and have one of the best militaries on the planet.

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Yes it is. And even then, looking at what Putin is doing to Ukraine, they decided to promptly join NATO and seek further direct military cooperation with the US. They are currently building facilities to pre-position American equipment in Finland in addition to their own large and excellent army. Finland indeed represents a blueprint for peaceful coexistence.

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Post by exe34 »

ganeshkrishnan wrote: post #101
exe34 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Ukrainians want their land and their people back. As long as they're willing to fight, I'll support them. The day they decide to give up and let the genocidal Russians sweep across their country, it'll be their decision.

Genocidal Russians? Russia hosts the largest Ukrainian refugee population.

"refugee" from the war they started and are carrying out? Has the UN been allowed in to meet these "refugees"? Or are they prisoners?

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Post by alecco »

protomolecule wrote: post #94
alecco wrote: post #93

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>> would be supplying all its neighbours with big pile of nuclear weapons > Russia could do that too. Starting with Cuba, for example. Or arming Mexican cartels. The Chinese mafia (wink wink) is already doing money laundering for them in US/EU.

>arming Mexican cartels It would hurt Mexicans and just plain evil.

The CIA and the Department of State did worse already all around the globe. US can't claim the moral high ground on this. So yeah, maybe think about the consequences of escalation.

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Post by rainworld »

anon373839 wrote: post #92
GenerocUsername wrote: post #72

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The same people who were very wrong about the election seem to believe everything the same media says about Russia. Very strong correlation, very questionable propaganda

I don’t know what media you consumed, but the media I read indicated the race could go either way, and that a 300+ EV tally for either candidate was possible. It’s literally impossible to have been “wrong”.

Bit of “media literacy” for you: The media you read does not exist to inform you. Trump’s lead would have had to have been overwhelming for published polls to indicate that he would win.

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Post by tim333 »

geenkeuse wrote: post #76

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The US and its allies are not very stretched in general. US troops in combat zero, US aircraft zero etc. I mean they are a bit stretched in some areas like making artillery ammo that we kind of thought was a thing of the past but there are huge amounts of stuff not being used. I don't know if you remember the 1991 gulf war? That was the last time the US flexed really. Iraq had 1,000,000+ soldiers 5,500 tanks 700+ aircraft 3,000 artillery systems and they were wiped out in no time.

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Post by aguaviva »

ganeshkrishnan wrote: post #101
exe34 wrote: post #80

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The Ukrainians want their land and their people back. As long as they're willing to fight, I'll support them. The day they decide to give up and let the genocidal Russians sweep across their country, it'll be their decision.

Genocidal Russians? Russia hosts the largest Ukrainian refugee population.

Russia hosts the largest Ukrainian refugee population.

Absolutely false - Russia has about 1.7 million, other countries some 6 million.

Whatever source you got that verbal snippet from is messing with your head.

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Post by [deleted] »

rainworld wrote: post #106
anon373839 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know what media you consumed, but the media I read indicated the race could go either way, and that a 300+ EV tally for either candidate was possible. It’s literally impossible to have been “wrong”.

Bit of “media literacy” for you: The media you read does not exist to inform you. Trump’s lead would have had to have been overwhelming for published polls to indicate that he would win.

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Re: Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia with Long-Range U.S. Missiles

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Post by p2detar »

ganeshkrishnan wrote: post #101
exe34 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Ukrainians want their land and their people back. As long as they're willing to fight, I'll support them. The day they decide to give up and let the genocidal Russians sweep across their country, it'll be their decision.

Genocidal Russians? Russia hosts the largest Ukrainian refugee population.

Wow! It's crazy. Just think about - no Russian invasion equals no refugees. Isn't it mind-blowing? Russia is sadly a warmonger nation, apparently even more so than imperialist USA. Something that won't ever be forgotten now.
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