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Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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Okay so like, genuinely not trying to do a "back in my day" fuckin thing here, but also: what the fuck is wrong with kids? Back when I was coming up, pranking at it's absolute worst was like, filling a dudes shoes with yogurt in the locker room, or like, putting plastic bugs in people's desks n shit. Why the fuck are teenagers trying to get each other murdered by cops!?

I suspect its more about how much national information you're exposed to today than any sort of time based moral failing.

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

#13

Okay so like, genuinely not trying to do a "back in my day" fuckin thing here, but also: what the fuck is wrong with kids? Back when I was coming up, pranking at it's absolute worst was like, filling a dudes shoes with yogurt in the locker room, or like, putting plastic bugs in people's desks n shit. Why the fuck are teenagers trying to get each other murdered by cops!?

I suspect because now everyone is in front of a camera. It's all become a show.

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

#14

Okay so like, genuinely not trying to do a "back in my day" fuckin thing here, but also: what the fuck is wrong with kids? Back when I was coming up, pranking at it's absolute worst was like, filling a dudes shoes with yogurt in the locker room, or like, putting plastic bugs in people's desks n shit. Why the fuck are teenagers trying to get each other murdered by cops!?

I suspect its more about how much national information you're exposed to today than any sort of time based moral failing.

I cannot be convinced that swatting is something that used to happen. Is there a history of this?

I legit do not remember seeing anything on the evening national news about that in the past, like from before 2000.

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

#15

Okay so like, genuinely not trying to do a "back in my day" fuckin thing here, but also: what the fuck is wrong with kids? Back when I was coming up, pranking at it's absolute worst was like, filling a dudes shoes with yogurt in the locker room, or like, putting plastic bugs in people's desks n shit. Why the fuck are teenagers trying to get each other murdered by cops!?

I feel like its partly due to our cultural shift for visual media, gags HAVE to be more extreme to get engagement. Back in the day you'd tell the tale to your friends and you could embellish it. Now it's everyone trying to emulate Paul Brother's content to get the reach to FINALLY BECOME AN INFLUENCE. I blame platforms just as much or more than users. Your incentives have driven behavior here.

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

#16

Okay so like, genuinely not trying to do a "back in my day" fuckin thing here, but also: what the fuck is wrong with kids? Back when I was coming up, pranking at it's absolute worst was like, filling a dudes shoes with yogurt in the locker room, or like, putting plastic bugs in people's desks n shit. Why the fuck are teenagers trying to get each other murdered by cops!?

I finished HS in 2007. I remember equal, if not worse things growing up online. The internet was less moderated back then and there was a lot of communities that celebrated toxic behaviors (like 4chan).

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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I'd be interested to know if any actual SWAT operations happened from these calls. I know that it does happen sometimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Wichita_swatting?wprov=sf...

This is a very sad read.

Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect its more about how much national information you're exposed to today than any sort of time based moral failing.

I cannot be convinced that swatting is something that used to happen. Is there a history of this? I legit do not remember seeing anything on the evening national news about that in the past, like from before 2000.

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Re: Teen behind hundreds of swatting attacks pleads guilty to federal charges

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect its more about how much national information you're exposed to today than any sort of time based moral failing.

I cannot be convinced that swatting is something that used to happen. Is there a history of this? I legit do not remember seeing anything on the evening national news about that in the past, like from before 2000.

The earliest it could have started is when SS7 links and the internet were bridged by dodgy / nefarious owners of said SS7 links. That started to take off around the mid 90's to spam phones with spoofed numbers. I wanted to get the SS7 links terminated but my boss in the wireless industry, tied heavily to SS7 would not let me because they were paying their bill. It would have been one phone call to terminate many of them.

I suspect you are probably right about the timeline for swatting as shady VoIP providers started getting popular in the early 2000's and started being used for more than just spoofing text advertisements.

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