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Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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How would they make it harder / reduce bots without sacrificing privacy (such as SMS/ID verification/etc.)? I think if you can realistically solve that you'd be a millionaire already.

> I think if you can realistically solve that you'd be a millionaire already. Please. If I knew how to do that, or even how to reduce bots even with SMS verification etc., I'd be a multi-billionaire at least. Making a twitter clone is relatively easy, making a community with a good vibe that's actually worth spending time using is the one single problem that makes none of the clones stand out to normal users.

One idea I had (feel free to steal this idea for your own use) was a one-time crypto payment to create an account. Of course you can't prevent bots from doing that, but if the price is right then I think it might greatly limit the number of bots on the platform as well as possibly limit the number of low-quality accounts.

But you don't know what you don't know, so I might be missing something that makes this pointless.

Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think if you can realistically solve that you'd be a millionaire already. Please. If I knew how to do that, or even how to reduce bots even with SMS verification etc., I'd be a multi-billionaire at least. Making a twitter clone is relatively easy, making a community with a good vibe that's actually worth spending time using is the one single problem that makes none of the clones stand out to normal users.

One idea I had (feel free to steal this idea for your own use) was a one-time crypto payment to create an account. Of course you can't prevent bots from doing that, but if the price is right then I think it might greatly limit the number of bots on the platform as well as possibly limit the number of low-quality accounts. But you don't know what you don't know, so I might be missing something that makes this pointles…

Metafilter used to charge a one-time fee of $5:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=467870

Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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I suspect that when people love Bluesky so much, a lot of that is actually just the fact that it’s free and has no ads and the population was quite manageable. I don’t think I’ve seen a concrete plan for how it’s going to keep scaling and pay the bills.

If it is an influence operation, the people who want to wield influence pay the bills. Already the point of X/Twitter (large Saudi funding, likely to help prevent another Arab spring type event in their country), and the point of the hundreds of millions SBF spread around. Bluesky's Series A was Blockchain Capital; seems like part of this year's significant movement of crypto influencers into politics. If so, they don't need it to turn a profit, they'll profit off the influence. Just like the corporations who normally jettison any money-losing department, but buy and keep permanently loss-making news departments for the influence they can create.

Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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Related ongoing thread:

Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42159713 - Nov 2024 (154 comments)

Also recent and related:

Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42159713 - Nov 2024 (153 comments)

The Bluesky Bubble: This is a relapse, not a fix - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42156907 - Nov 2024 (48 comments)

Consuming the Bluesky firehose for less than $2.50/mo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42152362 - Nov 2024 (58 comments)

Maybe Bluesky has "won" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42150278 - Nov 2024 (743 comments)

Watch Bluesky's explosive user growth in real time - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42147497 - Nov 2024 (11 comments)

How to migrate from X to Bluesky without losing your followers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42147430 - Nov 2024 (50 comments)

1M people have joined Bluesky in the last day - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42144340 - Nov 2024 (124 comments)

Ask HN: Bluesky is #1 in the U.S. App Store. Is this a first for open source? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42129768 - Nov 2024 (44 comments)

Ask HN: Will Bluesky become more popular than Twitter? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42129171 - Nov 2024 (13 comments)

Visualizing 13M Bluesky users - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42118180 - Nov 2024 (236 comments)

Bluesky adds 700k new users in a week - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42112432 - Nov 2024 (168 comments)

How to self-host all of Bluesky except the AppView (for now) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42086596 - Nov 2024 (79 comments)

Bluesky's AT Protocol: Pros and Cons for Developers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42080326 - Nov 2024 (60 comments)

Bluesky Is Not Decentralized - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41952994 - Oct 2024 (194 comments)

Bluesky Reaches 10M Accounts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41550053 - Sept 2024 (115 comments)

Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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I suspect that when people love Bluesky so much, a lot of that is actually just the fact that it’s free and has no ads and the population was quite manageable. I don’t think I’ve seen a concrete plan for how it’s going to keep scaling and pay the bills.

"With this fundraise, we will continue supporting and growing Bluesky’s community, investing in Trust and Safety, and supporting the ATmosphere developer ecosystem. In addition, we will begin developing a subscription model for features like higher quality video uploads or profile customizations like colors and avatar frames. Bluesky will always be free to use — we believe that information and conversation should be easily accessible, not locked down. We won’t uprank accounts simply because they’re subscribing to a paid tier."

https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2024-series-a

Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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I think the central nature of moderation needs fixed, rather than moderation itself. Real world moderation doesn't work by having a central censor, it involves like-minded people identifying into a group and having their access to conversation enabled by that identification. When the conversation no longer suits the group, the person is no longer welcome. I think a technical model of this could be made to work. Looke…

> involves like-minded people identifying into a group and having their access to conversation enabled by that identification.

I don't think it has anything to do with "identification." It has to do with interest. If your groups are centered around identity then that will be prioritized over content.

Content needs little moderation. Identity needs constant moderation.

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