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Where Does the Magic Go as We Grow Older? (2020)

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Re: Where Does the Magic Go as We Grow Older? (2020)

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WTF?! Seriously...

It doesn't sound like the individual writing this article has actually grown at all.

Why are the millennial generations so lost in make believe?

The reason the "majic" went away, is because it never existed! It was a figment of your childhood imagination.

The real failure of those lost in make believe is that actual reality is about a billion times more enganging and offers about a trillion times the opportunity to see expanded horizons. But wasn't the huffulump so much better? 8-/

But the photo at the beginning tells it all: modern kiddults want a realaity as complex as green eggs and ham.

No wonder we're fucked...

Re: Where Does the Magic Go as We Grow Older? (2020)

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I don’t think it goes away; it just gets bigger. That being said, what probably kills the joy and fun in anything is monetization, and the internet is a clear example of that. Kids don’t care much about money, so fun is done for pure enjoyment. Adults' fun is ruined by money, greed, status, optics, and other factors. If you try to have pure fun as an adult, you are either seen as childish (and consequently not taken…

“Kids don’t care about money” um absolutely not true in my experience, I know several kids (8 years old) and all they care about is cold hard cash or buying stuff on Fortnite.

Re: Where Does the Magic Go as We Grow Older? (2020)

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For me, I think it has to do with ..just having done more, experienced more. When I built blanket forts as a child it was something new, my first attempt at building something. It was exiting to figure out how to do it, and enjoy the end product. After a few of those it became a bit more usual, and I started doing other things - play with model cars, build lego sets, etc. I recently tried welding and I felt that same…

The World Cup when you’re 8 or 12 and not really seen one is incredible, at 40 it’s still great but I’ve seen 10 Euros or World Cup’s now and I still enjoy them, just not in the same fascination. Maybe I should try to see them through a new lens.

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post #10

I don’t think it goes away; it just gets bigger. That being said, what probably kills the joy and fun in anything is monetization, and the internet is a clear example of that. Kids don’t care much about money, so fun is done for pure enjoyment. Adults' fun is ruined by money, greed, status, optics, and other factors. If you try to have pure fun as an adult, you are either seen as childish (and consequently not taken…

I just sat through this years demosplash demo competition and the magic is absolutely still there. You're right, the lack of any monetary gain in the demoscene is a feature that keeps things interesting, quirky, and most importantly passionate. They optimize to wow and have fun, not to make a buck.

Re: Where Does the Magic Go as We Grow Older? (2020)

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the magic is very much right where it always is,its everywhere and in everything but never the same twice, so pattern recognition shows you other things instead, simpler things that are just the infill in an otherwise very busy and energetic world, its too much for most and they grow out of the pre verbal ,pan optic stage that marks all humans in some way

I personaly, have never stoped building stuff, there is no break from snow forts to living in vans and buses, I have a house, but I camp in it, I had to trick the power company into taking there wires off it, but hey ,I knew I didnt need it, because light comes down out of the sky and then something something ,photovoltaic and I can charge my phone and make food cold or hot

Re: Where Does the Magic Go as We Grow Older? (2020)

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I think your awareness shrinks. (And by awareness I mean attention. What you direct when you pay attention. What you concentrate when you concentrate. What gets jerked around when you are distracted).

You spend your whole life focusing on the important stuff / ignoring the unimportant stuff.

In this way you slowly whittle your reality down to a nub.

Also, much that was half-visible or vaguely-visible or almost-invisible gets discarded this way. That's a lot of reality.

Also, the "important stuff", in our society, tends to be mental stuff. Important ideas and plans and such. So by the time you're an adult you've discarded pretty much your whole reality except for a little mental videogame that you play until you die.

So it makes sense that an adult might suffer from reality starvation.

Re: Where Does the Magic Go as We Grow Older? (2020)

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post #11

WTF?! Seriously... It doesn't sound like the individual writing this article has actually grown at all. Why are the millennial generations so lost in make believe? The reason the "majic" went away, is because it never existed! It was a figment of your childhood imagination. The real failure of those lost in make believe is that actual reality is about a billion times more enganging and offers about a trillion times t…

I would posit that the imperative to “grow up” is in fact part of the problem. As children become adults they’re repeatedly told to “be realistic” and follow well-worn paths taken by numerous others in attempt to avoid “failure”. Don’t do the thing you’ve dreamed about since you were a kid, become a doctor/lawyer/developer/etc. Don’t discover yourself and explore the possibilities, stick to what’s “safe”.

This systematically douses natural sparks and transforms achievable goals into unreachable fantasies. People increasingly can’t imagine themselves breaking outside of the box, pushing boundaries, and changing the world, because the world has told them that they can’t and that they're best off not even trying.

Re: Where Does the Magic Go as We Grow Older? (2020)

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Generally agree with the article. The magic never went away. As I got older though I needed more than a blanket fort to amuse me. As I got older I started building plastic model kits, balsa airplanes ... my mind went to imaging them as real, full-size. Older still and I could afford a computer and, let me tell you, writing software that could amuse me, the coming of the BBS, and later the internet ... I had ascended…

> I have wondered a bit about why a sheet of typing paper folded into a paper airplane had as much appeal as it did when I was young. I think the kind of poverty of youth (my single, working-mom, a secretary, sneaking home the paper for me) forced a kind of creativity on me. We all made do with what was around the house.

This may be presumptuous of me because I obviously don't know your head, but I think you've missed the mark here, even though you know the secret when hoping you've passed the magic on to your kids. Exploration. The paper airplane isn't exciting because you have to make do, it's exciting because it's an avenue for exploration. How can I make it go further? What happens if I throw it upside down? What if I throw it from high up? Can I get it to curve? There's also a degree of self competition (i.e. if I can do X can I do X+1?)

It's easier when we're younger because there's so many more things to explore and so many things are so new we don't yet know what we don't like to explore. As we get older, we remove things from the list of things we're willing or able to explore, and our level of exploration must go deeper in order to be as magical since we know the surface stuff or can guess it pretty well. I think this also explains why adults can pull magic out of otherwise "boring" hobbies. Think stamp collecting or bird watching. And it's why we can find magic in things we thought were boring as a kid, because we're old enough now to explore what we once didn't understand.

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