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Moderation is orthogonal to free speech. They are separate concerns.

No it’s not. More moderation, more false positives, less free speech. Just having ‘moderation’ means the speech is not ‘free’.

Most people would be OK with suppressing CSAM. At least I hope most people are.

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How does that make any sense? More moderation clearly means speech is less free, in that you are blocking some of it (whether for good reason or not)

I do not have a right to put signs promoting my beliefs in your front yard. Preventing me from doing that is not a prohibition of free speech. What’s going to slay me is that the group that bitched and moaned about twitter preventing free speech have turned it into a hellhole nobody wants to be in. Now they will come over and say the same about Blue Sky??? Guys - you can post your ridiculous nonsense on X… nobody is…

If you live in California, you have every right to say what you want even in privately owned spaces so long as they're regularly opened to the public. More states should be like this and enforce it

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Moderation is orthogonal to free speech. They are separate concerns.

Unless you’re taking the stance that free speech as a concept applies only to the government, then it’s definitely not orthogonal. Almost all moderation concerns are obviously restrictions on free speech, it’s just that for several reasons people have started to shrink “speech” into “political speech within some Overton window” For some obvious examples of typical moderation that conflicts with pure free speech , con…

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Why use an LLM as opposed to a more narrow purpose built model? LLMs are not beating smaller, purpose built models on tasks like POS tagging, NER, sentiment analysis, etc. And the inference costs scale quite poorly (unless you are self hosting llama or something).

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Moderation is orthogonal to free speech. They are separate concerns.

As a booru and ao3 enjoyer I can promise you that a tag based system works perfectly if posters are good about applying consistent agreed-upon tags and users are good about subscribing to tags they like and putting tags they dont like on their PBL.

I dont think mega-big 'public square' type platforms will ever achieve this since growth requires chasing the most passive types of consumers who need everything done for them.

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How would they make it harder / reduce bots without sacrificing privacy (such as SMS/ID verification/etc.)? I think if you can realistically solve that you'd be a millionaire already.

I don’t think you realistically can. I’d instead approach it from limiting the reach of new accounts until proven as good actors. Or switch it back to invite only, as there’s a massive userbase now, and if you invite a problematic account it becomes a problem for your account too. Operate on a vouch system.

> good actors

Aha... dont be naïve... what is the definition of "good" in 2024? Take the US population for example... 50% will say your intentions are "good", the other half will not!

Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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Due to how easy it is to setup accounts and post on Bluesky, it’s likely many of the same operatives behind the propaganda and bot armies on Twitter are now pushing the same vitriolic content, and triggering these reports. If they can negatively impact Bluesky at a critical moment, it’ll reduce the flow of users who will quickly surmise “oh this is just like twitter”

How would they make it harder / reduce bots without sacrificing privacy (such as SMS/ID verification/etc.)? I think if you can realistically solve that you'd be a millionaire already.

That problem is unsolvable

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Unless you’re taking the stance that free speech as a concept applies only to the government, then it’s definitely not orthogonal. Almost all moderation concerns are obviously restrictions on free speech, it’s just that for several reasons people have started to shrink “speech” into “political speech within some Overton window” For some obvious examples of typical moderation that conflicts with pure free speech , con…

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Yes there is, and it's not on the tolerant to tolerate the intolerant.

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No it’s not. More moderation, more false positives, less free speech. Just having ‘moderation’ means the speech is not ‘free’.

Most people would be OK with suppressing CSAM. At least I hope most people are.

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