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Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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Post by l33t7332273 »

whaaaaat wrote: post #5
OutOfHere wrote: post #4

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Moderation is orthogonal to free speech. They are separate concerns.

Unless you’re taking the stance that free speech as a concept applies only to the government, then it’s definitely not orthogonal.

Almost all moderation concerns are obviously restrictions on free speech, it’s just that for several reasons people have started to shrink “speech” into “political speech within some Overton window”

For some obvious examples of typical moderation that conflicts with pure free speech , consider amoral speech like abuse material, violent speech like threats, and economically harmful speech like fraudulent advertising or copyright violations.

Extending these to things like hate speech, bigotry, pornography, etc are all moderation choices that are not orthogonal to free speech.

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Post by voat »

I'm interested to see how Bluesky ends up handling bad actors in the long-term. Will they have the resources to keep up? Or will it become polluted like the other large platforms.

Also, if a part of their business model will be based off selling algorithmic feeds, won't that mean more spam is actually good for their bottom line because they'll sell more algorithmic feeds that counter the spam?

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Post by jp_nc »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #8
whaaaaat wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moderation is orthogonal to free speech. They are separate concerns.

How does that make any sense? More moderation clearly means speech is less free, in that you are blocking some of it (whether for good reason or not)

I do not have a right to put signs promoting my beliefs in your front yard. Preventing me from doing that is not a prohibition of free speech. What’s going to slay me is that the group that bitched and moaned about twitter preventing free speech have turned it into a hellhole nobody wants to be in. Now they will come over and say the same about Blue Sky??? Guys - you can post your ridiculous nonsense on X… nobody is infringing on your right to free speech.

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Post by paxys »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #8
whaaaaat wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moderation is orthogonal to free speech. They are separate concerns.

How does that make any sense? More moderation clearly means speech is less free, in that you are blocking some of it (whether for good reason or not)

It isn't that clear cut. If you are trying to say something on a forum and a bot farm immediately gives you a thousand downvotes, will banning those bots increase or decrease free speech on that forum?

Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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Post by jabroni_salad »

ranger_danger wrote: post #7
hipadev23 wrote: post #6

Due to how easy it is to setup accounts and post on Bluesky, it’s likely many of the same operatives behind the propaganda and bot armies on Twitter are now pushing the same vitriolic content, and triggering these reports. If they can negatively impact Bluesky at a critical moment, it’ll reduce the flow of users who will quickly surmise “oh this is just like twitter”

How would they make it harder / reduce bots without sacrificing privacy (such as SMS/ID verification/etc.)? I think if you can realistically solve that you'd be a millionaire already.

this IMO is why groupchat is best social network. Anything with more than 20 people doesnt go on my phone. sorry marketers.

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Post by paxys »

voat wrote: post #13

I'm interested to see how Bluesky ends up handling bad actors in the long-term. Will they have the resources to keep up? Or will it become polluted like the other large platforms. Also, if a part of their business model will be based off selling algorithmic feeds, won't that mean more spam is actually good for their bottom line because they'll sell more algorithmic feeds that counter the spam?

The AT Protocol already accounts for this. There will eventually be community-built content labelers and classifers that you can subscribe to to rank and moderate your own feed however you want.

Re: We’re receiving about 3,000 reports/hour

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Post by ranger_danger »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #8
whaaaaat wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moderation is orthogonal to free speech. They are separate concerns.

How does that make any sense? More moderation clearly means speech is less free, in that you are blocking some of it (whether for good reason or not)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
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