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Re: Chimpanzees' performance on computer tasks changes when people watching them

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> Audience + Easy Task = Performance Decrease > Audience + Difficult Task = Performance Increase I haven't been able to replicate this during coding interviews

it seems to be Easy Task + increasing audience = doesn't really do much.

and Difficult Task + increasing audience = improved performance

which makes sense to me. 1 person is a distraction. a group of people is an audience.

Re: Chimpanzees' performance on computer tasks changes when people watching them

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post #65

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At a risk of being pedantic, some amount of money is worth some of the time you could be spending with them. The trick is finding the balance.

I think the idea is “no amount of money beyond what you can reasonable attain in a balanced work period” is worth pursuing over your relationship with your kids, but it probably is worth specifying. I think some people find the notion so absurd that they don’t take it as seriously as they should. I don’t consider myself totally stupid but it took me many years to figure this out. I took major salary cuts to find work…

Ever read The Razor's Edge?

My post doc mentor gave me that book to read, and didn't really tell me why. The first half is socialite nonsense. But then there's a deep dive into finding joy in life that isn't related to work.

He could see that my very poor background was making me look to move up to high pay, high stress jobs and was politely trying to intervene.

Finding balance is hard, but worth it. I'm making less than I should at a job that's okay. But I have 45 days of PTO, and another 18-20 holidays. I can take two full months off every year and nobody complains.

Re: Chimpanzees' performance on computer tasks changes when people watching them

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'After 1916, there is no record of him and his fate is unknown, but he was drafted into World War I as a military horse and "killed in action in 1916 or was consumed by hungry soldiers"' I feel like regardless of confirmation behind how high the intellect of the horse was, this is no way him to go out. Hans truly loved him. This may sound dramatic but it feels like if my pet cat were to get killed in war and possibly…

Got me curious about consumption of cat meat. https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/President-Trump-Signs-the-... Federal act signed in 2018 banning consumption of dog and cat meat. Was previously legal in 44 states.

Is there a reason? Like disease or something? Weird.

Re: Chimpanzees' performance on computer tasks changes when people watching them

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post #4

Interesting study. The performance increase on the difficult task as audience size increases is counterintuitive at first, but it makes sense when you consider how many humans excel at performing in front of large audiences. Yet for some of us the stress of being observed and scrutinized is crippling regardless of the task difficulty. I've bombed so many interviews because of this. :(

> Yet for some of us the stress of being observed and scrutinized is crippling regardless of the task difficulty. I've bombed so many interviews because of this. :( I feel your pain. I had a fourth-round interview recently where I was expected to write code while narrating my thoughts to two people sitting either side of me - and while perched on a wobbly office stool at a standing desk. Couldn't think. Totally bombe…

Oh that sounds awful I’m sorry! I’ve had to do code tests in online IDEs which fine, but I use vim and so I had to write everything in vim, paste to the IDE, get the live feedback from the rendered output and make adjustments back and forth. It would’ve been fine if not for the timed aspect.

I can’t imagine adding two people, an unfamiliar desk setup, an unfamiliar keyboard even, all while talking about what I’m doing.

Re: Chimpanzees' performance on computer tasks changes when people watching them

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea is “no amount of money beyond what you can reasonable attain in a balanced work period” is worth pursuing over your relationship with your kids, but it probably is worth specifying. I think some people find the notion so absurd that they don’t take it as seriously as they should. I don’t consider myself totally stupid but it took me many years to figure this out. I took major salary cuts to find work…

Ever read The Razor's Edge? My post doc mentor gave me that book to read, and didn't really tell me why. The first half is socialite nonsense. But then there's a deep dive into finding joy in life that isn't related to work. He could see that my very poor background was making me look to move up to high pay, high stress jobs and was politely trying to intervene. Finding balance is hard, but worth it. I'm making less…

Thanks, I’ll check that out. Lately I love finding stuff like this not only for myself, but for my kids eventually who I’ll probably need to indirectly nudge here and there as your post doc mentor did.

That all sounds great to me. I can say with certainty that it would have sounded terrible 10 years ago. How can you waste all that time not advancing your career? The irony is that the PTO and holidays absolutely do advance your career in the sense that they make you a more complete, fulfilled person who can keep cracking away at their career in a steady and consistent fashion for the decades to come. When you’re 25 you have no idea how badly you’ll need that, and how soon.

Re: Chimpanzees' performance on computer tasks changes when people watching them

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> Yet for some of us the stress of being observed and scrutinized is crippling regardless of the task difficulty. I've bombed so many interviews because of this. :( I feel your pain. I had a fourth-round interview recently where I was expected to write code while narrating my thoughts to two people sitting either side of me - and while perched on a wobbly office stool at a standing desk. Couldn't think. Totally bombe…

Oh that sounds awful I’m sorry! I’ve had to do code tests in online IDEs which fine, but I use vim and so I had to write everything in vim, paste to the IDE, get the live feedback from the rendered output and make adjustments back and forth. It would’ve been fine if not for the timed aspect. I can’t imagine adding two people, an unfamiliar desk setup, an unfamiliar keyboard even, all while talking about what I’m doin…

Is, "I use vim", a computer version of I am vegetarian?

Re: Chimpanzees' performance on computer tasks changes when people watching them

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post #75

Having someone watch me coding helps immensely to tame my ADHD. Opening HN because brain is bored is not an option.

Works for me too:-) (Not ADHD though)

At a co-working space (or in an office) I have to work, or I'd feel embarrassed whenever someone else was nearby (which is almost all the time).

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