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The Bluesky Bubble: This is a relapse, not a fix

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Re: The Bluesky Bubble: This is a relapse, not a fix

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Post by rsynnott »

McBainiel wrote: post #16

Has a clone of a social media site ever replaced an original? The closest I can think of is Tiktok being kinda similar to Vine but that feels like a stretch. I don't think Bluesky will succeed unless it offers something different to the basic Twitter experience. It's hard to picture enough people giving up Twitter (or using both) for it to reach the critical mass required to sustain it.

Reddit for Digg, Facebook for MySpace to some extent (they were pretty similar in the early days), arguably MySpace for Friendster. Stretching it a bit, Tumblr for Livejournal; they’re weren’t _that_ similar, but then nor are Twitter and Bluesky, under the surface.

Re: The Bluesky Bubble: This is a relapse, not a fix

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Post by mvelbaum »

brookst wrote: post #39
mvelbaum wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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X is the 15th largest social network by MAU[1], and falling. And there is some irony in your praise for tolerance. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_platforms_with_...

I may disagree with people politically, but I would never ask to ban them. Heck, I don't even report people who hurl racist insults at me, I just counter-attack, just like I would in real life.

Re: The Bluesky Bubble: This is a relapse, not a fix

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Post by mvelbaum »

childintime wrote: post #18
mvelbaum wrote: post #7

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I just proved your point down below. You don't like voting, do you? Also, it's advertisers that stay away, and it's X challenging them in court over it. The world is getting weirder by the day. Do you have an uncle that can't stop ranting and calling people names? People just leave his presence. That behavior is just the worst and we're not born to suffer it, passively. That's the whole point of the free speech falla…

You literally have a "Following" tab where you can have a timeline for only people you care about. You also have both a mute & a block button. Any platform focused on news & politics will have people fighting & insulting each other, learn to deal with it.

Advertisers have left as part of a concerted pressure campaign to bring back censorship. This effort has been coordinated by NGOs that ironically receive funding by the US Gov't as part of their mis/dis/malinformation playbook in order to keep in check populist political movements that may undermine the State Department's interests. As soon as Elon sued GARM, it broke apart, and I bet the Trump admin will target NewsGuard and kill it as well.

Re: The Bluesky Bubble: This is a relapse, not a fix

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Post by disqard »

AliAbdoli wrote: post #56
asah wrote: post #5

-1 to the conclusion. Counterexamples include LinkedIn, HN and various subreddits (not all) - they're operating at large scale, very lively but low levels of nasty (as a percentage).

LinkedIn has a lot of garbage

You're right!

IME, LinkedIn suffers from a different problem: on there, "everything is awesome", and the toxic positivity embedded in its DNA always snuffs out any authentic rancor.

So yes, it's free of bad behavior -- but it's also free of "normal" conversations. It's just full of "thought leaders", "visionaries", and "visionary thought leaders".

Re: The Bluesky Bubble: This is a relapse, not a fix

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Post by vinni2 »

hattmall wrote: post #30
McBainiel wrote: post #16

Has a clone of a social media site ever replaced an original? The closest I can think of is Tiktok being kinda similar to Vine but that feels like a stretch. I don't think Bluesky will succeed unless it offers something different to the basic Twitter experience. It's hard to picture enough people giving up Twitter (or using both) for it to reach the critical mass required to sustain it.

I can't really understand why people use Twitter at all, since it's inception. It's never felt like a compelling platform and everyone I know has an account, like myself, but made it years ago for some reason and never used it.

I used it professionally to learn about research articles written by my peers at conferences. Most academics I know have moved to Linkedin now.
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