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The Onion buys Infowars

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Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by tailrecursion »

threeseed wrote: post #704
tailrecursion wrote: post #666

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I take it that left wingers feel that "community notes" isn't effective or sufficient to combat right wing beliefs that are wrong? The people on the right seem satisfied for now that they can "combat misinformation with more information". (That's a misquote by the way, I believe he said better information, not more. On second thought, he may have said it both ways.) Has anyone discussed why the right believes this ca…

Community notes isn’t scalable. So when you have people like Musk constantly posting by the time a note is added the value of it has long since diminished. Also your left/right wing argument is entirely something you’ve invented.

I agree with the first part totally, and you're probably right I invented something there. I only meant that free speech / "more information helps" seems to resonate with the right, and censorship seems to resonate with the left. Not so?

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by eastbound »

bandyaboot wrote: post #584
wyager wrote: post #572

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So on the one hand you had Twitter, where the impression you would have had in the first few days of November is that Trump was probably going to win the election. On the other hand you had most other platforms like Reddit, with relatively heavy-handed moderation, where the impression you would have had in the first few days of November is that Trump was probably going to lose the election. So when you want to make a…

If I confidently declare ahead of time the result of a coin flip, I may turn out to be correct, but my confidence was still unjustified. And furthermore, my getting it right would not necessitate a “fluke”. I’m on Reddit a fair bit and while it’s difficult to know the overall biases of the greater community based on what I see individually, I don’t have a lot of trouble believing that there was a bias toward a partic…

> I’m on Reddit a fair bit and while it’s difficult to know the overall biases of the greater community based on what any one person sees

Left. Censored media leans left. Censored forums, news, communities are censored to give credit to left ideas. Symmetrically, left ideas only thrive by hiding information.

With complete transparency, people lean right.

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by bathMarm0t »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #764
leptons wrote: post #392

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The US has recovered from inflation better than practically any other country. Yes, the last 4 years have been far, far better than trump's first term by any measure you care to mention, except maybe hate, lies and fear.

I’m not a Trump supporter but clearly inflation was worse during Biden than Trump, that’s just a fact. So your claim that it’s on “any measure” is wrong.

Fiscal policy was used to ensure we didn't all starve during the pandemic, and that 2024 didn't do it's best 1928 impersonation. Was inflation worse? Of course. The conditions and context of either presidency aren't even close.

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by pshc »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #764
leptons wrote: post #392

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The US has recovered from inflation better than practically any other country. Yes, the last 4 years have been far, far better than trump's first term by any measure you care to mention, except maybe hate, lies and fear.

I’m not a Trump supporter but clearly inflation was worse during Biden than Trump, that’s just a fact. So your claim that it’s on “any measure” is wrong.

The money printing started in 2020 under Trump's watch, so if we're going to blame U.S. presidents for inflating prices (?) then it follows that Biden gets credit for the recovery.

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Post by heylook »

geor9e wrote: post #775
bogtog wrote: post #79

Really curious what the bidding was like or who else made an offer, since it seems that the Sandy Hook Victims (who own all of the debt?) wanted the sale to The Onion specifically

I wondered how the structure worked too. Technically the Sandy Hook Victims can buy Infowars. All the money they bid would just all come right back to themselves anyway. This article calls it a "joint bid". https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-14/the-onion... Meanwhile, Alex Jones is calling a hearing next week to accuse the bid process of being rigged https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1857223561754059168

> Meanwhile, Alex Jones is calling a hearing next week to accuse the bid process of being rigged https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1857223561754059168

Alex Jones is not a reliable source

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Post by marcus_holmes »

cheema33 wrote: post #550
GJim wrote: post #257

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I believe Xitter (pronounced 'shitter') is the preferred satirical term, and one that many deem to be an accurate portrayal of the sites user experience since it was taken over by Mr Musk.

Xitter is my favorite!

I like Xitter too. Also "the dead bird site" which occurs quite a lot on Mastodon

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Post by bagels »

nailer wrote: post #564
jjulius wrote: post #537

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>CNN has called all conservatives Nazis for years, and they are liars. This is a very disingenuous take. There's a litany of footage of Alex Jones saying everything he said about Sandy Hook being fake and speaking ill of those impacted family members - do you have a litany of footage of CNN anchors/staff calling all conservatives Nazis?

CNN did participate in the Russiagate conspiracy which probably had wider effects on US democracy.

The Muller Report found 'Russiagate' to be based in fact. It was demonstrated that there were inappropriate contacts between Trump's campaign and Russia, which was shown to have interfered with the 2016 election. Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, George Papadopolous, Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, Jeff Sessions, and more were all shown to have contacts with Russians?

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Post by tightbookkeeper »

multjoy wrote: post #670
tightbookkeeper wrote: post #280

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Don’t forget their many other successful lawsuits: - school administration - rifle manufacturer - the shooters mother (home insurance) - other journalists who wrote about the event I don’t know exactly what compensation they should get, but this does not seem like a healthy or sustainable way for our society to deal with tragedy.

A healthy & sustainable way would probably be to do something about school shootings in the only country where they happen on a regular basis. In the absence of that, what else would you propose?

> what else would you propose?

Not suing others for millions or billions and spreading misery. Nothing can bring those kids back.

Maybe the government could have offered education and employment guarantees to the families?

> only country

Want to list some other things only the US has?

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Post by tightbookkeeper »

icegreentea2 wrote: post #333
tightbookkeeper wrote: post #280

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Don’t forget their many other successful lawsuits: - school administration - rifle manufacturer - the shooters mother (home insurance) - other journalists who wrote about the event I don’t know exactly what compensation they should get, but this does not seem like a healthy or sustainable way for our society to deal with tragedy.

To be specific, the suit against the mother was against the mother's estate, since the mother was murdered by the shooter... like right away. The suit was settled by the estate. The suit against the school administration was eventually dismissed (the families lost on appeal) ( https://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Two-Sandy-Hook-famili... ). I agree it seemed kinda dubious, and I think the right outcome happened her…

AR-15 is merely a body style, there is no metric by which it is more dangerous than a hunting rifle.

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Post by hinkley »

oddevan wrote: post #461
sofixa wrote: post #312

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> I don’t know exactly what compensation they should get, but this does not seem like a healthy or sustainable way for our society to deal with tragedy. I don't know if it's healthy or sustainable, but it definitely sounds healthier than ignoring the tragedy altogether.

Agreed. It doesn't seem like a long-term solution, but it is the best way we have _right now_ to visit consequences on people/orgs that enabled the tragedy. If our society sees everything in cost/benefit, then increasing the costs of actions that lead to tragedies like this is one of the best things we can do.

Suing into bankruptcy is the only flavor of capital punishment we have for corporations.
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