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The Leningrad botanists who saved the first seed bank

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Re: The Leningrad botanists who saved the first seed bank

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Ideally yes but scientists have grown crops from single seeds that are thousands of years old so as long as the facilities passively maintain a low temperature, many of them will be viable for a very long time.

" as long as the facilities passively maintain a low temperature" And remain dry.

Shouldn’t be a problem on the moon.

Re: The Leningrad botanists who saved the first seed bank

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There is also a more recent one in Syria :"How Seeds from War-Torn Syria Could Help Save American Wheat - May 14, 2018 https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-seeds-from-war-torn-syria... And another take on it here: How Syrians Saved an Ancient Seedbank From Civil War When civil war broke out in Syria, Ahmed Amri immediately thought about seeds. Specifically, 141,000 packets of them sitting in cold storage 19 miles south of Aleppo. https://www.wired.com/2015/04/syrians-saved-ancient-seedbank...

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We might need to preserve seeds again due to climate change. Impressive to read about those who literally sacrificed their life during a siege for science and the future of humanity. Thanks for sharing.

There is a wonderful plant bank here in Sydney, Australia. Lots of thick mud walls and other sophistications to outlast weather and similar incidents. https://www.botanicgardens.org.au/our-science/science-facili...

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ah yes, the Soviet Union that turned a country that was still feudal in the 20th century into a country that sent the first human to space 50 years later for sure was very against science.

I actually overall agree with your point, but to be fair the off topic remark probably was targeted at this bit of pseudoscience that unfortunately dominated Soviet politics for decades, and its influence in Soviet and Chinese agricultural policy ultimately contributed to the death of millions of people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Lysenko#Repression_of_b...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine#Agricultu...

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/12/trofim-l...

Note that Nikolai Vavilov, a scientist that preserved the seedbank cited in the Guardian article, was actually purged due to Lysenko's crusade against genetics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Vavilov

> Vavilov's work was criticized by Trofim Lysenko, whose anti-Mendelian concepts of plant biology had won favor with Joseph Stalin. As a result, Vavilov was arrested and subsequently sentenced to death in July 1941. Although his sentence was commuted to twenty years' imprisonment, he died in prison in 1943. In 1955, his death sentence was retroactively pardoned under Nikita Khrushchev. By the late 1950s, his reputation was publicly rehabilitated, and he began to be hailed as a hero of Soviet science.[4]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ah yes, the Soviet Union that turned a country that was still feudal in the 20th century into a country that sent the first human to space 50 years later for sure was very against science.

I actually overall agree with your point, but to be fair the off topic remark probably was targeted at this bit of pseudoscience that unfortunately dominated Soviet politics for decades, and its influence in Soviet and Chinese agricultural policy ultimately contributed to the death of millions of people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Lysenko#Repression_of_b... https://en…

May I please remind you of Turing's fate in the land of Freedom and Science?

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Also, there's talk of putting one on the moon.

Don't seed banks need regular refreshing?

Seed banks are mostly self-refreshing. Seed viability decline during storage is measured and modelled for. A sample of seeds is taken out of storage and grown to breed a new batch of seeds after an amount of time based on the rate of decline of that sample.

So a batch that loses 20% viability every 5 years will be regrown to seed after a shorter amount of time than one that loses 2% viability every 5 years.

Source: was a seed germination and dormancy researcher at the Millennium Seed Bank

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Don't seed banks need regular refreshing?

Seed banks are mostly self-refreshing. Seed viability decline during storage is measured and modelled for. A sample of seeds is taken out of storage and grown to breed a new batch of seeds after an amount of time based on the rate of decline of that sample. So a batch that loses 20% viability every 5 years will be regrown to seed after a shorter amount of time than one that loses 2% viability every 5 years. Source: w…

Yeah but even if the viability decline was quite slow on the moon, you would still have to refresh _eventually_, at least that's how I understand what you wrote.

Are we going to have robots on the moon doing the refreshing? That would be cool.

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