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The Onion buys Infowars

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Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by jjulius »

brvsft wrote: post #599
shadowgovt wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He didn't lose his entire business for being wrong. He lost his entire business for being wrong, doubling down on being wrong in light of contradictory evidence, tripling down on the doubling down, being sued, ignoring the lawsuit, having a default judgment rendered against him, getting to a trial-based penalties phase, and performing so badly on the stand (along with a major error on the part of his lawyer, but one…

> Perhaps it should give us pause that nobody they are ostensibly calling Nazis can make a defamation case stick against them. Lol, you know that isn't what's happening.

What is happening?

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by quantadev »

shadowgovt wrote: post #569
quantadev wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jones has been wrong about multiple things. So has every media outlet especially since someone came down some escalators. I don't personally think someone should lose their entire business for being wrong. CNN has called all conservatives Nazis for years, and they are liars. Do you think CNN should be sued out of existence? Personally I think CNN has every right to lie. They've now done it so much that they self-dest…

He didn't lose his entire business for being wrong. He lost his entire business for being wrong, doubling down on being wrong in light of contradictory evidence, tripling down on the doubling down, being sued, ignoring the lawsuit, having a default judgment rendered against him, getting to a trial-based penalties phase, and performing so badly on the stand (along with a major error on the part of his lawyer, but one…

Translation: Yes our Legal System allows a prosecutor and 12 jurors to vent their pre-existing highly-biased hatred towards a man to the tune of awarding $1.5 billion to a group of people who were at worst, insulted. Same thing happened to Trump. A bunch of his political enemies are using the Legal System to go after him because of their personal hatred. That's evil, if you ask me.

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by dmvdoug »

rsynnott wrote: post #252
ziddoap wrote: post #132

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Funny, for sure, but does not explain what they will be doing in reality.

I'd assume destroy, maybe keep a bit for novelty value. Like, they're not going to resell it, you'd assume.

There were a bunch of suggestions on the bluesky thread that they should donate samples of them to researchers so that they could figure out what was actually in the fucking things.

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by anigbrowl »

from-nibly wrote: post #384

> “By divesting Jones of Infowars’ assets, the families and the team at The Onion have done a public service and will meaningfully hinder Jones’s ability to do more harm,” How hard is it really to start a new podcast?

He likely still owes them significant money, so they can keep pursuing him for that for a while. But even without his financial troubles, trying to rebuild his brand is just going to lead to endless self-debasement. James O'Keefe is still at it since Project Veritas shut down, but has little reach any more.

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by Volundr »

TeeMassive wrote: post #351
Volundr wrote: post #294

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Did the original offer include shutting down Infowars? Of not I expect many of them feel they got plenty more that whatever cash Jones was offering. There is more to this life than money.

> Did the original offer include shutting down Infowars? That was part of the SH families' lawyer final argument to the jury. > There is more to this life than money. Sure. But there's not much a civil lawsuit can ask outside of damages and reparations.

And yet seeing the case through to the end instead of taking the first offer has seen Infowars taken from Alex Jones. I don't speak for the families, but if I were in their shoes that would be far more valuable to me than maximizing my payout.

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by shadowgovt »

quantadev wrote: post #602
shadowgovt wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He didn't lose his entire business for being wrong. He lost his entire business for being wrong, doubling down on being wrong in light of contradictory evidence, tripling down on the doubling down, being sued, ignoring the lawsuit, having a default judgment rendered against him, getting to a trial-based penalties phase, and performing so badly on the stand (along with a major error on the part of his lawyer, but one…

Translation: Yes our Legal System allows a prosecutor and 12 jurors to vent their pre-existing highly-biased hatred towards a man to the tune of awarding $1.5 billion to a group of people who were at worst, insulted. Same thing happened to Trump. A bunch of his political enemies are using the Legal System to go after him because of their personal hatred. That's evil, if you ask me.

The court system is adversarial, no doubt. It is built to be so; there's a reason what happens to a defendant is called a "trial."

But the legal defense of both Trump and Jones had every opportunity to take every rule that favors the defendant to their advantage and... They didn't. That set of 12 jurors with "pre-existing highly-biased hatred" was filtered by Jones's own representation. The evidence that Jones had evidence the rules of the Court require him to disclose that he did not disclose was revealed by his own lawyers. There are rules to this process and he either chose to ignore them or he retained incompetent representation.

Powerful men believe they don't have to play by the same rules as the rest of their fellow citizens. The system disagrees.

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by rtkwe »

kregasaurusrex wrote: post #64

There's tonnes of worthless merchandise and supplements of a dubious nature which The Onion, the least expected of all possible buyers, now has to find a use for. My first suggestion would be melting down all of the 500% marked up gold bars[0] and make a one-time-run charity auction collectible for the Sandy Hook families. Or upcycling all the paper in Alex Jones' books [1] into paper mache, and use it to make globes…

InfoWars only shilled for gold sellers. Their business was entirely Vitamins/Supplement, Merch, and crazy AFAIK they never sold gold directly.

Re: The Onion buys Infowars

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Post by TZubiri »

consumer451 wrote: post #18

Tim Onion's (Ben Collins) statement on Bluesky: [0] > Hi everyone. > The Onion, with the help of the Sandy Hook families, has purchased InfoWars. > We are planning on making it a very funny, very stupid website. > We have retained the services of some Onion and Clickhole Hall of Famers to pull this off. > I can't wait to show you what we have cooked up. Next post: [1] > Does anybody need millions of dollars worth of…

Absolutely poetic.

Dude tried a career in journalism.

Had a crazy theory that a school shooting was fake.

School shooting wasn't fake.

Dude doesn't say "I'm sorry, my bad, I'm retiring from journalism", but goes down fighting.

Looks good to me.

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