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Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
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Re: Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
#12I wish they would have a number I can cal to speak to her. That would be fun
I was thinking the same, but so that I can conf-call unknown or obviously suspect numbers to it, and listen to the hilarity unfold in real-time.
Re: Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
#13This is cool when some independent hacker / artist does it as "Lemmy".
When a big telecom does it, the second thing they do with it is to fuck up the spam detection so bad that every third phone call I make gets answered by "Daisy".
And just think about it - why would a telecom need this tech? They can already drop the spam calls and stop routing calls from the bad actor telecoms who enable the spammers. They don't do that because they prefer to collect a few cents a call from them rather than serve their customers better. It's everyone else who needs this.
Re: Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
#14Instating an AI model as "Head of Scammer Relations" is hilarious. I think the point here is to collect the phone numbers of scam call centers and have Daisy call them so that scammers waste time talking to it rather than a victim.
Re: Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
#15I was a little surprise to read that they're using speech-to-text and text-to-speech rather than an end-to-end speech model. Won't that horrible latency? (I guess the old-person persona disguises it a little...)
Re: Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
#16Reminded me of Lenny and he didn't even need any AI to waste a lot of scammers' time.
Maybe Daisy has become sentient and has taken over all operations at 02. No one noticed.
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#17Surprised there aren't any comments whining about this because the scammers are bigger victims. Usually there's at least one.
> surprised there aren't any comments whining about this
This is called a totem.
You’ve invented or learned a caricature to rail at which may have once been based in truth, and from time to time again approximates it, though never with the fidelity you ascribe to the original. It’s commonly done by sides in partisan polarisation, the most common being a two-mode system that pillories its picture of the other.
If you picture the person writing the totem comment, you probably have a clear idea of what they do for a living, how they dress, et cetera. Totems are why both deification and demonisation work; they’re a hack of the human ability to visualise and project.
Re: Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
#18I can already see AI scammers phoning AI anti-scam agents.
AIs talking to AIs... at the end of the day the real winner is always Nvidia
Re: Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
#19This is cool when some independent hacker / artist does it as "Lemmy". When a big telecom does it, the second thing they do with it is to fuck up the spam detection so bad that every third phone call I make gets answered by "Daisy". And just think about it - why would a telecom need this tech? They can already drop the spam calls and stop routing calls from the bad actor telecoms who enable the spammers. They don't d…
They're not intercepting calls over their network from suspected bad actors; rather, they've created some phone numbers that always go to Daisy - see https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/11/virgin-media-o...
Re: Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time
#20I'm imagining this is just a publicity stunt, and I'll say it's a very good one. However I can't see it being very practical. There are lots of scam calls to keep up with and LLMs and text-to-speech models are expensive to run. If they do run this in production, the costs of running hundreds of 'Daisies' will inevitably be passed onto the consumer, and worse still, if the scammers are calling in through PSTN lines or cellular this will use up our already scarce bandwidth. I've frequently had difficulty connecting through trunk lines from Belgium and Germany to numbers in Britain, and that's without a legion of AI grannies sitting on the phone!