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The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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I recall the Wipeout 2097 soundtrack[1] blew me away as a kid. I had heard some techno and eurodance was popular at the time, but the sounds coming out of the speaker at the store where the demo ran was on another level. Bought the CD and listen to it every now and then, and Orbital's Petrol track is still up there on my top 100 list. There was something raw, and edge, that seems lost in so much electronic music thes…

The edginess and rawness might be the limitations of the equipment used and the people using it, but for me the edge was that the music it wasn’t pigeonholed into different genres at the time. It was all working together like a Weatherall set.

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I've recently been into game development, and I needed music which lead me to discovering synthesizers--I was hooked the first time I saw so many buttons, knobs, and flashing lights--and now I've gone off on a huge tangent and am studying music theory instead of making my game. Oh well, it's all for fun. Does HN have any advice on how to get started with synthesizers, with an eye towards creating a game soundtrack?

You started in the right place with music theory. As for learning synths, you can do it in two ways - just start using them, fiddling and playing (whether its a software synth or hardware synth) or you learning actually the fundamentals by books, video and articles like these: https://www.soundonsound.com/series/synth-secrets-sound-soun...

I started the first way in the early 80s and did the second and have a life long love of synths ( I don't even know how many I have now but probably around 30-40 hardware synths, samplers and drum machines).

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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There's still plenty of fresh underground music and the 'kids' are doing just fine. Yeah there's loads of mainstream garbage out there, but there always was. The main difference is that this stuff was being invented, whereas most electronic music now is derived from those early 90s invented genres, but even saying that there's still plenty of creativity. There's a night in London called Cartulis (which is usually at…

I'm interested in a lot of subculture music, and it really isn't there like it was for the most part. Most families of music seem to have stagnated or regressed. The early 90s gangster rap is definitely superior to mumble rap/emo rap, the 90s IDM/jungle/trance is superior to modern EDM/house/trap and the pop mainstream now is just garbage compared to the the mainstream from the late 80s/90s. Mixing and production are…

Tell me you're out of the loop without telling me you're out of the loop. As someone in my mid 20s, techno music is booming and it has zero EDM/house/trap influences. Everyone my age thinks EDM is cringe, it was a trend of 10 years ago. Go to actually underground sound clubs if you know where they are. I'm guessing you don't, because you're showing how ignorant you are of the scene. Some recently released tracks I picked up as a young techno DJ just in the last few weeks/months:

https://soundcloud.com/kmyle/kmyle-empire-bns089?si=0ce480e4...

https://soundcloud.com/kmyle/kmyle-cocoon-original-mix?si=73...

https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-introversion-sea-...

https://soundcloud.com/regalmusic/regal-undisputed?si=a6bdf3...

https://soundcloud.com/darko-esser/darko-esser-zondag-2008?s...

https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-wtchcrft-new-frie...

https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-marco-bailey-trai...

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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> that era was so raw and fresh, the future was being invented right there! Very happy days I've been told by several Gen-Z that they've never been to a "rave", and I feel sorry for them. In my town, we had quite the underground scene, but then times changed and it is so much smaller now. Now, "kids" just call it all EDM instead of the specific genre that we know and love.

I was surprised to see Gen Z called out here specifically, though I guess it depends on where you live/grow up as well. I'd hazard to guess most of the millennials I know also haven't been to a rave! I don't think there were any available in my hometown (or they were too underground for me to have ever heard about!), and there wasn't much exposure to electronic music at all, so it's not an experience I'd ever conside…

Yep, the rave scene is absolutely booming for gen z. I would say the spirit is much more lacking in millenials

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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> that era was so raw and fresh, the future was being invented right there! Very happy days I've been told by several Gen-Z that they've never been to a "rave", and I feel sorry for them. In my town, we had quite the underground scene, but then times changed and it is so much smaller now. Now, "kids" just call it all EDM instead of the specific genre that we know and love.

There's still plenty of fresh underground music and the 'kids' are doing just fine. Yeah there's loads of mainstream garbage out there, but there always was. The main difference is that this stuff was being invented, whereas most electronic music now is derived from those early 90s invented genres, but even saying that there's still plenty of creativity. There's a night in London called Cartulis (which is usually at…

Fold is the place to be

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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> that era was so raw and fresh, the future was being invented right there! Very happy days I've been told by several Gen-Z that they've never been to a "rave", and I feel sorry for them. In my town, we had quite the underground scene, but then times changed and it is so much smaller now. Now, "kids" just call it all EDM instead of the specific genre that we know and love.

I'm 48 and I still DJ. The kids are fine. The underground scene is still real. D&B is just jungle 14 BPM faster.

> D&B is just jungle 14 BPM faster.

Blasphemy!

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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There's still plenty of fresh underground music and the 'kids' are doing just fine. Yeah there's loads of mainstream garbage out there, but there always was. The main difference is that this stuff was being invented, whereas most electronic music now is derived from those early 90s invented genres, but even saying that there's still plenty of creativity. There's a night in London called Cartulis (which is usually at…

Given when/where you were, you might be familiar with Global Underground. I was excited to learn recently that they relaunched in the past couple years www.globalunderground.co.uk

Global Underground never entirely went away. However, the famous label run by the “Boxed brothers” ran into severe financial difficulties in the early millennium. Since then, I have assumed that Global Underground is a mere brand that any prog-ish DJ can pay money to use, to aid in promotion.

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> Mixing and production are worlds better Long gone are the days of "shoes in the dryer" mixes where guys were just slamming two DATs together with no pitch control. Sadly, I think we've gotten to the point of those tight mixes being less of the skill of the DJ and the result of software. With everything being done on laptops with cool software, I really wonder how many DJs are even mixing and just performing while a…

99.99999% of DJs have been performing a premade mix since iPods have become popular. The knob twiddling DJs are hilarious. Ukraine, oddly, seems to be pumping out tons of attractive women dancing off beat behind setups that aren’t even powered on half the time on YouTube. I enjoy the mixes in the background while working and occasionally watch some footage for the laughs. Shake it if you’ve got it.

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Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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I'm interested in a lot of subculture music, and it really isn't there like it was for the most part. Most families of music seem to have stagnated or regressed. The early 90s gangster rap is definitely superior to mumble rap/emo rap, the 90s IDM/jungle/trance is superior to modern EDM/house/trap and the pop mainstream now is just garbage compared to the the mainstream from the late 80s/90s. Mixing and production are…

> the 90s IDM/jungle/trance is superior to modern EDM/house/trap This is your own fault for going to EDM/house/trap parties. Go to better parties, then you'll find better music.

Fr. Don't know why you're getting downvoted. The bitter people in this comment section who think electronic music died in the 90s clearly wouldn't know a good club if it slapped them in the face and it shows.

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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In general please don't use Soundcloud to share music. It's complete shit. It doesn't even allow seeking unless you register for an account. At least Youtube is borderline usable without signing in.

Are you kidding? Not only does YT push undesired video bloat when you just want to listen to audio, it also is ad-driven/-ladden. Basically using YT for audio and Let's Play binging is an Alzheimer/Boomer marker, and the signal to leave the party.

Is using uBlock Origin or NewPipe, which have made YouTube an ad-free experience for more years now than I can remember, a “Boomer marker”? Granted, it isn’t unusual to see claims in tech circles that younger generations today are less aware of certain customizations or certain forms of pirating content, but it would be a real shame.
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